quick clutch adjustment ?

[slickerthanyou]

Sorry bro I had to step out for a while. When you pull the inner clutch hub there will be a washer that has slots cut in it make sure ya put it in the way it came out. next when ya pull the outer clutch basket off, there will be two washers one thicker than the other, the thinest one is concaved and must be put on first, it goes on like this --) then the thicker one which should be no more than two penny's thick. If it's thicker that's your problem. maybe the back of your basket is worn or machined, that's what mine was and someone tried to compensate by using a thicker washer ended up breaking the little gear on the back of the basket!

 

[Uptown_Blaster]

Ok that was a little confusing but I think I got it. Im going to take it off in the morning. The thick washer thats on there now is from a differnt blaster. If it is too thick, do i need to take it to the store and buy a thinner one or can I just go to the bike store and buy a stock one.?
As far as the washer on the inner hub with the groves, I did not know it was supposed to go a certain so I just put it back on, is there a way of knowing which way it should go. I pretty much just lined it up and put it on?
As soon as I figure out how to give rep Im going to give you some!!

 

[slickerthanyou]

Just to recap, after you have it disassembled, the thin washer it's blue in color (forgot to say that) if ya lay it flat on the table it's hump (concave) is facing up towards you, this may be hard to see and stuck on the end of the shaft but make sure it's there. and the hump faces you when you put back on the shaft it's gonna act like a spring washer. Then the thicker washer, goes on next, then the basket, then the washer with the slots,(The flatter (shiny'r) side of the slotted washer goes towards engine.) then the inner clutch hub, then the lock tab washer then some locktight then the nut bend then tab over the flat end of the nut. Put the clutches and spacers in correctly tya say you know how, I was taught put the fiber plate first then a spacer (steelplate) next at 12 oclock, then count 4 notches on the clutch boss put the next fiber plate, then the next spacer line it up with that 4th notch you counted, then count 4 more notches on the clutch boss put the next fiber plate, then the next spacer line it up with that 2nd- 4th notch you counted keep going in this order, (4 notches for the spacer plates) until finished this keeps helps keep the clutch balanced. I'll see if i have any pics to refer too- and repost...

 

[slickerthanyou]

Ok here is an example of what I mean by counting four spaces- every place that is circled is where you put a metal spacer plate with the bump on that space. hope this helps... By the way I borrowed this from someone on here can't remember who...

 

[Uptown_Blaster]

I am taking the the clutch assembly apart. What if I find that that the large washer behind the basket isnt actually too big?? Does that mean that I tightened the bolt on the basket too tight(is that even possible)?
I'm trying to figure out what else would cause the center hub to not spin freely from the basket if its not the washer?

Thanks

 

[slickerthanyou]

I don't have an answer for that, Maybe Pm Oconner racing, he helped me bunches, he figured out my issue couldn't of done it without his help!

 

[iceman]

I see lots of good information here - THANKS GUYS!

Let me ask this:
I am trying to make this adjustment, however I cannot get the threaded adjustment rod out of the center. What does this mean?

I have everything off - plates, fibers, etc. but I cannot get the small threaded adjustment rod out. Any thioughts???

 

[brandoz28]

did you pull the lock nut off of it?


if so, the pushrod just screws out

 

[iceman]

did you pull the lock nut off of it?


if so, the pushrod just screws out

From the other side of the engine?
I guess I never saw where that was needed... <embarrased>

 

[brandoz28]

if you're talking about the adjuster rod that goes through the pressure plate then there's a nut on the outside of the pressure plate, the rod sticks through the other way

 

[iceman]

if you're talking about the adjuster rod that goes through the pressure plate then there's a nut on the outside of the pressure plate, the rod sticks through the other way

Indeed, I am talking about that.
I think the ball is welded to the end of that rod and cocked in such a way as to not let it slide out.

 

[brandoz28]

so are you talking about the rod that's all the way inside the motor? or the one that goes directly through the pressure plate?

 

[iceman]

so are you talking about the rod that's all the way inside the motor? or the one that goes directly through the pressure plate?

It's the small threaded rod - directly in the center of the plates. Has a philips head, there is a 10mm nut with a washer built onto it on the inside, and another 10mm nut with a smaller (not affixed) washer for the outer side of the housing. This I cal the jam nut.

Normally, you would loosen the jam nut - use a phillips to adjust - then lock down the jam nut. This is the rod I am referring to.

 

[brandoz28]

yeah, you should just be able to pull that outer nut off, and then just screw it out of the inner nut.


i had to replace mine because it was stripped

 

[1bad442]

Indeed, I am talking about that.
I think the ball is welded to the end of that rod and cocked in such a way as to not let it slide out.

if u take out the 5 pressure plate screws can u remove the rod and pressure plate from the clutch basket?

 

[iceman]

if u take out the 5 pressure plate screws can u remove the rod and pressure plate from the clutch basket?

I have the 5 screws out, and the cover plate, and all fibers and steels off. The rod is full exposed and both nuts are off. It will not come out. It has about 1/4 inch of slop, but will not come all the way out. I pull on it and I hear it stop as if there is another nut on the inside.

Essentially the adjustment rod is just sitcking out of the cebter hole with nothing attached and it will not come all the way out.

 

[1bad442]

I have the 5 screws out, and the cover plate, and all fibers and steels off. The rod is full exposed and both nuts are off. It will not come out. It has about 1/4 inch of slop, but will not come all the way out. I pull on it and I hear it stop as if there is another nut on the inside.

Essentially the adjustment rod is just sitcking out of the cebter hole with nothing attached and it will not come all the way out.

take a pair of vise grips and twist the rod as u pull it the ball has messed up the end of that shaft maiking it not want to come out your also gonna have to get the rod thats on the other side of the ball out also

 

[iceman]

take a pair of vise grips and twist the rod as u pull it the ball has messed up the end of that shaft maiking it not want to come out your also gonna have to get the rod thats on the other side of the ball out also

Well this should be fun... lol
Thanks for the help folks.

I have placed the nut back on the rod - and used vice grips on the nut and tried to yank it out... but I have not gotten it out yet. I guess I need a slide hammer of sorts to beat it straight out. Once out though, how will I get the inner rod out I wonder.

More fun tomorrow.
Thanks again!

 

[1bad442]

Well this should be fun... lol
Thanks for the help folks.

I have placed the nut back on the rod - and used vice grips on the nut and tried to yank it out... but I have not gotten it out yet. I guess I need a slide hammer of sorts to beat it straight out. Once out though, how will I get the inner rod out I wonder.

More fun tomorrow.
Thanks again!

well im sure u wont want to hear this but if the other side of that rod and the ball are jammed in there your gonna have to split the cases so u can push it out from the other side of that shaft

 

[1bad442]

heres a pic of the three pieces that are in that shaft