Here we go! BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!

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Im not going to even start discussing politics with either of you two, you're obviously Republican and thats fine by me but before you start wasting time spreading filth about someone keep in mind that while the president does make alot of decisions, none of it matters if YOUR appointed senators and representatives decide not to side with him. And as far as not knowing what Im talking about sparky, you weren't even born yet while we experiencing the cold war with Russia. What do you know about socialism and communism other than what you've learned about in school? Im not going to try to argue with anyone over the internet about politics, thats just rubbish and would be wasting alot of time. They're all crooks and liars, its all about the money and always has and will be regardless if your republican, democrat, communist, socialist or independent. Until you stand up for what you believe and change the course of history you have no arguement or opinion that is any better than the next.

Do you really think the man that calls his wife a "smurf" in front of the media would make a good president? Do you think the man that married an heiress to a beer company's fortune for political aspirations is the man you want to lead your country? Do you really want family that spends the same amount of money on your clothing that the donation cost to get into some convention? Why do you think "Joe" sixpack turned his back on McCain. Because like so many before him, he was a self-centerd typical politician. They only have one desire and thats to keep the rich richer and the poor poorer.

I will say that I thought McCain was more suited to lead our military but many of the other things he said were a bit un-nerving.

We could go on and on about this stuff but before you come on here talking about how I don't know anything perhaps you should have read my reply a second time. No where did I say Obama was the best thing that ever happen'd since chocolate milk, only stated you should give the man a chance. If he hasn't done anything that helps this country regain some of the respect and admiration we so grew to just expect, then I too will likely vote for another candidate.

Sparky its funny that someone who rides a YAMAHA, is so pro-american made. I suppose you drive a foreign vehicle too right?

I agree with most of your statement. All polititions are messed up and currupt. Choosing the worse of 2 evils sure as hell wont help things though. I would rather things stay like they have been for the past 8 years then go towards were they are going the next 8. I would rather vote for a typical currupt old war vet than a radical ex-coke head that thinks hes god and can fix all of americas problems by stealing from the rich and giving to the lazy.

I bought a yamaha banshee because americans dont make anything like it.
I bought a R1 for the same reason.

Just because I bought a couple things that are made overseas doesnt mean im anti-american. Nice try though. Just because im republican doesnt mean I dont agree with international trade. Lemme guess, you own a brand new $50,000 nissan titan?

No, I drive a ford ranger and will never own a foreign car. I shoot an American shotgun and will soon own an American pistol. In the next month I will buy an American house. Not to mention I buy all American tools and parts.

No I didnt learn a thing about politics in school. I read books, watch TV, and have common sense enough to know that obama is a future failure. Moreso than just about every president we have ever had.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
yeah i do actually, and ill use my 9!!! no jk, but when he's old enough to vote than he can gripe about the outcomes, but no theres nothing wrong with him stating his opinon or being interested, i was saying that in more of a joking manner than serious, so dont get all hard on me PETER!!

He can gripe now, he needs to gripe now so it will help him be able to find a job before obama gives them all to china.
 
If this was all just a racial thing then why did McCain's own state vote in the majority for Obama?

I sum this up for you...

McCain = what we had for the last 8 years

Obama = MAYBE something different

One man can't change this country alone, he never could and never will. YOU need to do your part just like the rest of us...

So what have you done to help your fellow americans lately?

The last 8 years we have been the most powerful nation in the world

The next 8 years we wont be

Why would you want to change that?

I have listed in the post all the things I do to help my community. If you are too lazy to read it maybe you should just ignore this thread. Like most liberals probably are.
 
Im glad you buy or soon plan to buy american made products, that good to hear. The one thing you lack is true patriotism, you know the kind that says Im proud and confident to be an american regardless of who is in office.

As far as my driving goes, um no, I don't drive a foreign vehicle, I drive a 05' Colorado and by the looks of my tag it looks like my real passion is my Buick.

Learning from books, tv ( totally biased depending on the channel you watch by the way ) and having common sense is great but none of them even compare to experiencing something.

You should be happy to be an american, you should be proud to be part of a country where your dreams and visions are only as far out of your reach as you make them, you should as american be supportive of your country through good times and bad. You haven't even given Obama a week, let alone of year and your already calling him a failure. You should run for president because obviously you have all the answers to the worlds' biggest and most pressing issues.

Its obvious your still young with your catchy phrases and your tunnel vision for eyes but no fret young padawan in time you will learn.
 
He can gripe now, he needs to gripe now so it will help him be able to find a job before obama gives them all to china.

you buying Yamma's is helping keep jobs in America? and you say americans dont make nothing good, but tell us to only buy american sh*t? how can u tell somone to do somthing you dont yourself? And ill keep buying foreign sh*t, because maybe eventally america will get the hint and start making similar sh*t that last longer and is better! u contridict yourself so bad and someone says somthing about it, and here u are trying to cover it up!!! And you have a ford ranger cause its cheap! if it was a foreign truck for a better deal when u were shopping around i bet u would of bought it instead. right? i have a ranger also and i know why i have it, its not cause im trying to pay union workers in the US $40 an hour to use an impact wrench all day! come on douche bag, get real
 
I didn't know we were the most powerful nation in the world the last eight years and suddenly overnight we're not, did anyone else?? When did this happen?

The last I checked, we have been the brunt of alot of jokes from other countries, and most of those jokes had to do with the bumbling idiot they call Gdub.

If your SO unhappy about the situation in washington write to your state rep's or even better become one so you can save us all from damnation.
 
Im glad you buy or soon plan to buy american made products, that good to hear. The one thing you lack is true patriotism, you know the kind that says Im proud and confident to be an american regardless of who is in office.

As far as my driving goes, um no, I don't drive a foreign vehicle, I drive a 05' Colorado and by the looks of my tag it looks like my real passion is my Buick.

Learning from books, tv ( totally biased depending on the channel you watch by the way ) and having common sense is great but none of them even compare to experiencing something.

You should be happy to be an american, you should be proud to be part of a country where your dreams and visions are only as far out of your reach as you make them, you should as american be supportive of your country through good times and bad. You haven't even given Obama a week, let alone of year and your already calling him a failure. You should run for president because obviously you have all the answers to the worlds' biggest and most pressing issues.

Its obvious your still young with your catchy phrases and your tunnel vision for eyes but no fret young padawan in time you will learn.

I learn from the history channel which is pretty much straight facts.

I am almost a quarter century old which is more than old enough to know that liberalism/socialism would be the fall of america.

The part you failed to mention is that America is not a person, America is not an idea, america is not a person stading infront of a microphone promising everyone the world, america is not what MOST of the citizens think it is. America is a set of constitutional laws, and a pledge, anyone that doesnt stand by them is not an american.

Here is why I DO NOT support barack obama and why he is NOT an american. (since he has been in office he has violated these ammendments) we wont even include all the lying and clear display of inability to think for himself (let alone the american people) prior to his inauguration.

He is not qualified to be the president because he was born in africa.
The candidate must be:
A. A natural-born citizen of the United States
B. At least 35 years of age, and
C. A resident of the United States at least 14 years.

Ammendment 2. He has violated by taxing ammo beyond affordability and banning assault rifles would be his sart to banning a lot more.

Amendment 5 - Violated by letting terrorists go (convicted or not they are terrorists and they should be punished for their actions)

These ARE NOT examples of a person that should be leading this GREAT nation.
 
you buying Yamma's is helping keep jobs in America? and you say americans dont make nothing good, but tell us to only buy american sh*t? how can u tell somone to do somthing you dont yourself? And ill keep buying foreign sh*t, because maybe eventally america will get the hint and start making similar sh*t that last longer and is better! u contridict yourself so bad and someone says somthing about it, and here u are trying to cover it up!!! And you have a ford ranger cause its cheap! if it was a foreign truck for a better deal when u were shopping around i bet u would of bought it instead. right? i have a ranger also and i know why i have it, its not cause im trying to pay union workers in the US $40 an hour to use an impact wrench all day! come on douche bag, get real

Purchasing a yamaha does help some jobs in america but most of the money does go to japan. It helps the salesperson, the parts guy, the assembler, the person answering the phone at the dealership, the truck driver that delivered the quad. You get the hint.

When did I say americans dont make anything good? I gave 2 examples of things they DONT make. Im sure if a united states company had interest in motorsports like ours they would make a great vehicle.

My next vehicle will be a silverado or sierra so the part of your run-on paragraph is irrelevent and proves everything to said abotu it to be untrue..... and $18,000 for a vehicle isnt cheap. When you get a job you will understand that.

Just because I dont agree that a union worker should make $40/hour doesnt mean I dont believe in american products.
 
I didn't know we were the most powerful nation in the world the last eight years and suddenly overnight we're not, did anyone else?? When did this happen?

The last I checked, we have been the brunt of alot of jokes from other countries, and most of those jokes had to do with the bumbling idiot they call Gdub.

If your SO unhappy about the situation in washington write to your state rep's or even better become one so you can save us all from damnation.

Im saying we have been the most powerful nation the past 8 years. Within the next 8 we will not be. Incase you dont watch the news toyota just passed GM in being the largest automotive company in the world.

I would love to represent my state or country but most people dont like hearing things the way things are. Most people want to hear "you can do nothing and get everything" from a polititions mouth. Im a tell it like it is guy so my attempt at gaining plitical experience would be nearly impossible. Unless I was willing to lie to the american people and then completely change my plan when I got in office, which I am not willing to do.
 
You should check your facts. He was born in HAWAII, last time I checked that was part of the US of A. Also, if memory serves me correct, america was founded on certain IDEALS then transfered to paper. The word IDEAL originates from the word IDEA.
 
You should check your facts. He was born in HAWAII, last time I checked that was part of the US of A. Also, if memory serves me correct, america was founded on certain IDEALS then transfered to paper. The word IDEAL originates from the word IDEA.

They were ideas before they were america. Once on paper and signed they became America.

His birth certificate is fake. His sister says he was born on one island on hawaii he says he was born on another and his mother says he was born in africa. Since his birth certificate is fake he must have wanted to hide something, which is the fact he was born in africa. The FBI and all kinds of other high-up athurtities are investigating it. Barack was unable to supply the documents when asked.... several times. Smart guy.
 
Once again you show how naive you are, I suppose if I told you McCain was really a woman but he was unwilling to show you his junk you'd believe that too right?

Im done talking about this your obviously narrow minded and have alot to learn about life.
 
Purchasing a yamaha does help some jobs in america but most of the money does go to japan. It helps the salesperson, the parts guy, the assembler, the person answering the phone at the dealership, the truck driver that delivered the quad. You get the hint.

When did I say americans dont make anything good? I gave 2 examples of things they DONT make. Im sure if a united states company had interest in motorsports like ours they would make a great vehicle.

My next vehicle will be a silverado or sierra so the part of your run-on paragraph is irrelevent and proves everything to said abotu it to be untrue..... and $18,000 for a vehicle isnt cheap. When you get a job you will understand that.

Just because I dont agree that a union worker should make $40/hour doesnt mean I dont believe in american products.

Ok dipshit, compare that $18,000 to a new truck in the same category, and tell me it isnt cheap!?!? and iv had 2 rangers, still have one, and both of them (being 4wd) have gotten atleast 23 mpg! compare that to other makes and models in same class, that is cheap!!! that shows how disconnected to the real world you are! And i wasnt saying a union worker being paid $40 an hour was right, now did I? no, and so you know i have a job, i dont sit on my lazy ass behind a steering wheel all day like you and think im doing the greatest things for this country, I WORK, PHYSICALLY, sorry son, just cant handle your ignorance!
 
Once again you show how naive you are, I suppose if I told you McCain was really a woman but he was unwilling to show you his junk you'd believe that too right?

Im done talking about this your obviously narrow minded and have alot to learn about life.

Obviously you are out of points to try and prove. Thats why the last guy I was arguing stopped.

You believe obama is an american because the news told you, so I dont wanna hear how about how naive you are.
 
Ok dipshit, compare that $18,000 to a new truck in the same category, and tell me it isnt cheap!?!? and iv had 2 rangers, still have one, and both of them (being 4wd) have gotten atleast 23 mpg! compare that to other makes and models in same class, that is cheap!!! that shows how disconnected to the real world you are! And i wasnt saying a union worker being paid $40 an hour was right, now did I? no, and so you know i have a job, i dont sit on my lazy ass behind a steering wheel all day like you and think im doing the greatest things for this country, I WORK, PHYSICALLY, sorry son, just cant handle your ignorance!

I was referring to 18,000 vrs buying a used car. Foreign cars arnt an option in my mind. So why dont you open your eyes and understand what im saying before you attack me.

There is absolutely NO WAY EITHER of your 4x4 rangers got 23mpg. Tell them that at www.rangerpowersports.com they will laugh in your face. Those guys know more about the truck than you can imagine.

Sit on my lazy ass all day... behind a steeringwheel? Youve got it all ass backwords. Ive helped more people in the past 4 years of my life then you will in your entire life judging by your attitude in this thread. People love dogging me and my profession until they need me. Then I cant get there fast enough theres nothing else that matters and theres no price thats too high.

Son? im not your son. I worked physically too (Construction for 2 years and worked for a recycling company for 2 years throwing catalatic converters in the back of a truck, dont pretend I dont know what Physical work is). Then I got an education, and now I still do physical work. You tell me how you get a 68 year old woman that weighs 400 lbs out from inbetween a toilet and a wall and onto a backboard without hurting her any worse. Its not like its physical work to carry a 350lb man down 3 flights of stairs with a 120lb female partner thats never lifted anything more than a infant in her life.

Why are you even bringing this sh*t up? This is a obama thread. Im not gunna sit here and compare dicks with you.
 
Obviously you are out of points to try and prove. Thats why the last guy I was arguing stopped.

You believe obama is an american because the news told you, so I dont wanna hear how about how naive you are.

lol, so your saying you personally know him to confirm where he was born? i bet you heard that from some blog somewhere didnt you?
 
lol, so your saying you personally know him to confirm where he was born? i bet you heard that from some blog somewhere didnt you?

As I explained before..... Ill explain again for the lazy democrat......

His birth cirtificate is fake. The athorities are investigating it. Look it up...
 
When you get a job you will understand that.
Just because I dont agree that a union worker should make $40/hour doesnt mean I dont believe in american products.

This why our work habbits where brought up, and both my parents used to run a squad together (volunteer)until they decided to choose a diff path (both have been Paramedics). And you dont lift 400lbs all day long, you cant bullshit me buddy, what maybe once a week? if that? haha.. and yeah throwing catilytic converters in a truck all day is gotta be super hard man! And i call you son, because thats how i look down on you for such ignorance, also Have you ever worked with moldings? plastic extruders, densifiers etc...anything like that? i dout it but maybe u should check that kind of work out some time so you know what i do (Lifting and resetting 45 lb inserts in molds) for 10 hrs a day! and yes thats continues, filling a mold on average every 21-35 seconds !!! and i praise you for getting an education, but i have one also so dont think you can look down on me!!! THATS WHY
 
Just some random notes I thought I would drop off, dont worry they aren't from Wikipedia so you can trust them.

Obama "no longer wears an American flag lapel pin because it has become a substitute for 'true patriotism' since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks", he said October 4, 2007, in Iowa.

I seriously hope I dont have to explain why this bothers me...
"In addition to using a thirsty charter jet and SUV motorcade to ferry him to speeches ripping Detroit automakers for causing global warming by not building more fuel efficient vehicles, it turns out Barack Obama also chooses horsepower over fuel efficiency in his family car," Henry Payne wrote May 11, 2007. Mark Phelan reported in the Detroit Free Press that Obama "drives a 340-HP V-8 Hemi Chrysler 300C - the most powerful engine option for that vehicle, and one of the most powerful family sedans on the market. The 'C' gets a combined city/highway 21 mpg."

I like this one especially, first he uses the coal industry to get his foot in the door, then stabs them in the back when the environmentalist get on him about green house gases.

"In 2004, as a state legislator running for the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama came to this small town 300 miles from Chicago to pledge support for southern Illinois' struggling coal country," Alec MacGillis and Steven Mufson wrote June 24, 2007, in the Washington Post.

"Three years later, with Obama now a candidate for president, his embrace of southern Illinois and its dominant industry is showing signs of strain. Obama finds himself caught between his advocacy of huge federal subsidies for liquefied coal for transportation fuel, a technology that the Illinois coal industry views as a salvation, and environmental groups that reject it as a boondoggle that would set back efforts to reduce carbon dioxide emissions in the fight against global warming," MacGillis and Mufson wrote.

"After co-sponsoring legislation earlier this year for billions of dollars in subsidies for liquefied coal, Obama more recently began qualifying his support in ways that have left both environmentalists and coal industry officials unsure where he stands," MacGillis and Mufson wrote. "More broadly, Obama's contortions on coal point to the limits of the role he likes to assume, that of a unifier who can appeal across traditional lines and employ a "new kind of politics" to solve problems. In reaching out to the coal industry, some observers say, he may have been trying to show that he is a different sort of Democrat, but the gesture had the look of old-style politicking and put him in a corner, where he wound up alienating some on both sides of the issue."


Like this one too , even the first lady has a hidden agenda
"She is taking a break from her main job, as a well-remunerated Chicago hospital executive, to campaign for her husband. But she has just been re-elected to the board of an Illinois food-processing company, a position she took up two years ago to gain experience of the private sector.

And the biggest customer for the pickles and peppers produced by Treehouse Foods is the retail giant Wal-Mart, the world's largest corporation and the bête noire of American liberals, including Sen Obama, for its employment practices, most notably its refusal to recognise trade unions.

As the Illinois senator prepared to join the presidential fray late last year, he threw his weight behind the union-backed campaign against Wal-Mart. He declared that there was a "moral responsibility to stand up and fight" the company and "force them to examine their own corporate values".

According to the couple's tax returns, Mrs Obama earned $51,200 (£25,700) for her work as a non-executive director on Treehouse's board last year, on top of the $271,618 salary she was paid as a vice-president of the University of Chicago Hospitals.

She also received 7,500 Treehouse stock options, worth a further $72,375, as she did the previous year, when she banked a $45,000 salary from the company.

The apparent contradiction between Sen Obama's political calculation to join the Wal-Mart-bashing lobby, and his wife's profitable role with a company that makes money from Wal-Mart, is being closely scrutinised by "opposition" research teams working for rival White House candidates, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt."
 
Seriously WTF: I guess paying parking tickets 17 yrs late is cool too, I mean what is 17 years really.... oh thats right! ONE year shy of raising a child into adulthood! WTF

March 8, 2007

BOSTON --Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama got more than an education when he attended Harvard Law School in the late 1980s. He also got a healthy stack of parking tickets, most of which he never paid.

The Illinois Senator shelled out $375 in January -- two weeks before he officially launched his presidential campaign -- to finally pay for 15 outstanding parking tickets and their associated late fees.

The story was first reported Wednesday by The Somerville News.

Obama received 17 parking tickets in Cambridge between 1988 and 1991, mostly for parking in a bus stop, parking without a resident permit and failing to pay the meter, records from the Cambridge Traffic, Parking and Transportation office show.

He incurred $140 in fines and $260 in late fees in Cambridge in all, but he paid $25 for two of the tickets in February 1990.

Jen Psaki, a spokeswoman for the Obama campaign, dismissed the tickets as not relevant.

"He didn't owe that much and what he did owe, he paid," Psaki said on Wednesday. "Many people have parking tickets and late fees. All the parking tickets and late fees were paid in full."

NEVER in my boldest hour would I be brave enough to just wip right in and park my car in bus parking on a public street. That is just plain rude then and still is today but apparently being curteious to the law wasn't on his agenda back then while he was attending "LAW" School.
 
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