ok guys, i wanna clear somthin up for u, i wasn't kissin butt in my post, i was just speaking my mind, i do beleive yb should have to do the swinger, and for anybody who thinks awk was bein so mean, really guys, cmon, it's my man AWK, haha, i don't really give a crap, haha, i actually laughed when i read his post, no offense taken