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hey guys i have a few questions if u can help me out. i just redone my topend and just got over brake in. runs great on low end mid ok but top end pings in 5th and 6th wide open throttle.1/4 1/2 3/4 fine only wot? can anyone help me out? shifts fine clutch fine maybe a bad bearing on rod for wrist pin?
 
im not sure could be lean only does it wot 5th 6th any other gear wot dont hear it so why would it only do it then ? should i take jug off and look see if its ok
 
does it only happen when you let off the throttle?

whenever i was breaking in my la sleeve cylinder and doing plug chops i would hear a pinging sound but then i rellized it was my google strap banging up against my helment, haha so it could just be somthing like that.
 
how bout some fresh sunoco 91 octane in there ????
 
ive ran it 3 times on steet did it every time so rocks out of question i might pull fly wheel see if timeing ever been advanced ,blaster new to me so i dont know whats under the cover it was running when i got it.i redone topend just because i wanted know it was done
 
Did you leak check this machine when you got the top end back on? A small air leak can allow what *was* the perfect jetting to be lean enough to predetonate at WOT.

Have you done a plug chop yet with the new top end? I would bet you a nickel that insulator is as white as a ghost right now.
 
i highly doubt theres a air leak !!!! no plug chops as of now. my quad is few towns over so cant work on it . maybe a jetting issue
 
i highly doubt theres a air leak !!!! no plug chops as of now. my quad is few towns over so cant work on it . maybe a jetting issue

Can't be sure of any leaks until you test for them. There's a link in my sig below on how to build and use a leak tester. I highly recommend doing one.
 
Pinging is usually an sign of high heat caused by a lean condition or too low of octane for your timing or compression level.
If its a stock compression (~120psi) and timing then it must be a lean condition.
A lean condition can be caused by wrong jetting or an air leak. By performing an air leak test you are eliminating an air leak as the cause.
 
Predetonation can be initiated in a number of ways.

The easiest is have the whole stratified charge too lean and having the charge explode before it's time.

Next, you can push a properly rich charge too fast and excite it too hard (too little squish clearance and/or compression too high for the given fuel quality) causing the properly rich and stratified charge to explode prematurely due to heat and friction.

Third, you can overheat the engine causing a properly rich charge to de-stratify so there are lean pockets near the cylinder wall which can explode prematurely.

Fourth, you can have carbon build-up or cylinder head damage which can become a "hot-spot" causing a properly rich and stratified charge to ignite using the "hot-spot" as the ignition source before the spark plug fires.

If you have a little carbon build-up and an airleak combined, at lower temperatures (not WOT for a few seconds) the carbon isn't hot enough to ignite the slightly lean charge. Once the engine is run hard for a few seconds (1st thru 3rd perhaps) the carbon gets hot enough to ignite the lean charge.