/\/\/\/\ Ya Ive done that twice, Mainly while doing donuts and wheelies..
Makes me feel like a damn fool lol
/\/\/\/\ Ya Ive done that twice, Mainly while doing donuts and wheelies..
Makes me feel like a damn fool lol
lmfao whats up with people not using there clutch?!?!?!?!?!? if you didnt have to use it, it wouldnt be there!!!
I'm not saying the clutch is useless. There are situations where you have to use the clutch, I'm just saying that you don't have to use it every time you shift. You still need the clutch to take off and when your not in the right rpm range to shift to the gear you want to be in. The clutch is also very useful when your riding technical terrain where you can slip it to build rpms rapidly.
Some very basic rules I use for shifting without the clutch:
1.When shifting without the clutch DON'T force it! It should go in easily if your in the right RPM range for that gear. Forcing it will only cause bent shift forks or similar damage. If it does not shift easy use the clutch!!!
2. When down shifting DON'T do it from top speed WOT. So if your wound tight in 4th don't shift to 3rd to slow down. That's what the brakes are for. (don't forget you have two brakes use them wisely)
3. DON'T "rapid shift" without the clutch. As in shifting more than one gear as fast as you can because there is no way your in the right RPM range that quickly. like when your riding down a trail in 5th and you come up to a steep hill that you want to use 2nd for use the clutch
4. When you downshift, think about your RPMS are going to be When you drop to that next gear. What is your motor going to sound like, Is it going to over rev the motor? If so, use your clutch to ease into it, Dont just slam it in
5.No neutral drops!!! Like I said you need it to take off.
6. RANGE RANGE RANGE!!!! Watch the range, if your not in the right RPM range DON'T DO IT!
Lastly use common sense. Its a good Idea to get some practice in a open field or if you can a road where you can focus on your range and shifting without distractions like jumps and those trees that like to jump out in front of you. Most of you probably do it without knowing. Pay attention to your clutch lever when you shift. You probably dont pull it in all the way every time so in effect the clutch is still transferring torque to the gear box just not at the same amount or RPMS.
As far as this Ignition interrupter thing. I am not familiar with it, could someone post up some links to some info explaining this in detail? everything I have found leads to a device that completely kills an engine in an emergency.
straight cut gears in action!!! turn your volume up and you will understand why passenger cars use helical gears
Some very basic rules I use for shifting without the clutch:
1.When shifting without the clutch DON'T force it! It should go in easily if your in the right RPM range for that gear. Forcing it will only cause bent shift forks or similar damage. If it does not shift easy use the clutch!!!
2. When down shifting DON'T do it from top speed WOT. So if your wound tight in 4th don't shift to 3rd to slow down. That's what the brakes are for. (don't forget you have two brakes use them wisely)
3. DON'T "rapid shift" without the clutch. As in shifting more than one gear as fast as you can because there is no way your in the right RPM range that quickly. like when your riding down a trail in 5th and you come up to a steep hill that you want to use 2nd for use the clutch
4. When you downshift, think about your RPMS are going to be When you drop to that next gear. What is your motor going to sound like, Is it going to over rev the motor? If so, use your clutch to ease into it, Dont just slam it in
5.No neutral drops!!! Like I said you need it to take off.
6. RANGE RANGE RANGE!!!! Watch the range, if your not in the right RPM range DON'T DO IT!
Lastly use common sense. Its a good Idea to get some practice in a open field or if you can a road where you can focus on your range and shifting without distractions like jumps and those trees that like to jump out in front of you. Most of you probably do it without knowing. Pay attention to your clutch lever when you shift. You probably dont pull it in all the way every time so in effect the clutch is still transferring torque to the gear box just not at the same amount or RPMS.
As far as this Ignition interrupter thing. I am not familiar with it, could someone post up some links to some info explaining this in detail? everything I have found leads to a device that completely kills an engine in an emergency.
straight cut gears in action!!! turn your volume up and you will understand why passenger cars use helical gears
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Yes i've learned to really pay attention when riding, esp on a new course, don't push the limit of your bike, wear all the gear you can. BTW use that clutch that's what sets us apart from utilty's and stuff like that hahahah.
-Vito
-Vito
haha you guys are cracking me up with all this....first of all...dirtbikes and fourwheelers are made to have fun and fly through the gears and ride hard...they have CONSTANT MESH TRANSMISSIONS! That means that every gear is spinning at the appropriate speed all the time! This means that when you go to shift from say 2nd to 3rd...3rd is already spinning fast enough...shifting is just a matter of connecting that gear to the motor. The only thing that is keeping you from being able to shift while your under throttle is the LOAD ON THE GEARS!...so it is simple! take the load off the tranny and you can shift easily!!!! So all you need to do is back your throttle off...that will take all load off the tranny...and you will essentially be coasting for a brief second...shift, then gas it again... i am laughing at the thought of pulling my clutch lever every shift just to unload the tranny...last time i checked it is way easier to move my throttle than my supper stiff clutch springs lol...my left hand would fall off! bottom line...the clutch is there to simply disconnect the engine and transmission, ya know so you can do important things like start the bike, come to a complete stop etc. lol...if you guys wanna use your clutch to take the load off the tranny the go for it...but its not needed at all...just let go of the gas and shift at the same time...the gearbox is made to do it, your gears will be fine, and your clutch will wear less...if it wasnt it would be like a cars gearbox
acc u should let sum1 unexperianced ride ur quad i gave my blaster to my brother for a race and beat himon a 8 year old suzuki 160 farm quad (4stroke obv)
the only time i dont use the clutch it a drag race only use the clutch to take off. it just feels safer that im not grinding my gears by not using the clutch
i dont see why you just use the clutch...
more fun anyway. just feel like you have more control, well because you do...
more fun anyway. just feel like you have more control, well because you do...
Excellent explanation, Rep given! I was too focused on the fact that they are straight cut gears and on race car transmissions and completely over looked the obvious that they have a constant mesh :">. They use what is called a dogged engagement instead of a synchro engagement. For more info look up a dog box transmission they are pretty much the same thing and there is a lot of info on the WRX sites those guys love these things!
That being said my previous post about being in the right RPM range should be disregarded
thanks man...sorry to anyone if i sounded like i was calling people dumb for using the clutch...im not at all, just trying to say it is not necessary by any means...just get the load off the transmission, and it will shift thats the bottom line....the way you wish to unload the gears it is up to you. As long as your having fun and enjoying yourself and not hurting your machine its all good lol
Very good advice, but I would like to add that if there is even the slightest inkling of a thought that you might be able to do it. You'll never know if you don't try.
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