Well, pictures are to come, but this is the end result of my stem. When calculating the difference in stems (and this will be helpful to those who buy one) the plus 2 is in length of stem, this does not account for the added length of the mount which as you can see in the pics is quite bulky. My original steering setup was made to raise the stock steering system as well, hence the banshee high bars which I searched for forever before finding. The overall result with the 1 1/8 mounts was that it raised the stock steering roughly 2-3 inches, which was perfect. Now with a low bar and the new anti-vibe I'd be at 2-3 inches as well, but with the Banshee high bars it sits at 4-5. I'd have to take exact measurements. Long story short, my fat bars are two high to work with my stem. As some of you have seen I've listed my whole steering setup in the for sale and if anyone wants it I'll take 100 plus shipping ... this is for the PC'ed stem, Pro-Taper fat bar mounts, Tag T2 Banshee high bends, and Triple Density Pto Taper Grips ... In it's place I have a brand new set of 14 degree Fasst Flexx LO bars on their way, along with a Set of Clarks Red/Black Lock On Grips. Comfy X2 Anti-Vibe here we come .... As soon as my bars are here pics are coming!!!!!!! oh and I've ahd a billetanium stabilizer sitting in the box for months that i've yet to install, if this isn't the best steering setup ever I don't know then.