Exhaust!!

Blaster200boy

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Ok Guys, The Toomey is in the mail now. I also ordered a Uni Air Filter and Jets. I ordered main jet sizes 310-320-330 and ordered a Pilor Jet size of 35. For as cld as December is where i live (Southern Indiana) When i ride, its gonna be above 25 degrees (customary) or im not riding. With that temperature in mind will i have to jet my main higher than a 330? Also when i jet with those jets i listed, do I have to fumble with my needle clip position?
 
Moving the needle clip up or down in position affects the engine's behavior after the carbuertor is off the pilot. Meaning, needle clip position on your carb. will basically control fuel delivery from 1/3 throttle up to about 3/4 throttle. After 3/4 throttle, the needle has moved out of the way of the needle jet - enough, anyways, that the engine is now being fed by just the main jet. If your engine runs rich between 1/3 and 3/4 throttle, drop the needle one slot. Conversely, if it's leaning out, pick the needle up one slot.

I would leave the needle clip alone for now, though. There is no way to tell exactly what jets you will need after adding a pipe and air filter kit. BUT, Toomey has done their homework on this kit, and the jetting is pretty close right out of the box. Crank it up, ride it easy at first, and just do your plug chops/exams. Spark plugs are like that little brat we all loved to hate back in 3rd grade. They tell all!!

Good Luck!I:I
 
Moving the needle clip up or down in position affects the engine's behavior after the carbuertor is off the pilot. Meaning, needle clip position on your carb. will basically control fuel delivery from 1/3 throttle up to about 3/4 throttle. After 3/4 throttle, the needle has moved out of the way of the needle jet - enough, anyways, that the engine is now being fed by just the main jet. If your engine runs rich between 1/3 and 3/4 throttle, drop the needle one slot. Conversely, if it's leaning out, pick the needle up one slot.

I would leave the needle clip alone for now, though. There is no way to tell exactly what jets you will need after adding a pipe and air filter kit. BUT, Toomey has done their homework on this kit, and the jetting is pretty close right out of the box. Crank it up, ride it easy at first, and just do your plug chops/exams. Spark plugs are like that little brat we all loved to hate back in 3rd grade. They tell all!!

Good Luck!I:I


Thanks Braaaptor! One other question, Don't I have to run WOT to do a plug chop? Maybe I should pay my mechanic to jet it?
 
You could pay a professional to jet it for you, but where's the fun in that?! Lol. I live for that sense of satisfaction that comes from my job well done. Like my boss' '86 Moto-4 that finally fired and ran today after having been in about 15 major pieces for the last two months. ;)

Anyways, YES, you do have to run the engine at WOT to get an accurate plug chop, but only for a few seconds. Basically, put in a fresh plug. Then, just get out on the straightaway and wind it up through all the gears, shifting normally. When you top out in 6th at WOT, keep the throttle held open, and immediately shut off the engine. Pull in the clutch and coast to a stop. Then, remove the plug and take your reading.

Of course, if you're like me and run out of room to run all too quckly, you can skip a couple gears. The point of this technique is to put the engine under full load at all RPM's for at least 30 seconds. This allows enough deposits to build up on the plug so that you can take an accurate reading. However you achieve these circumstances is up to you.

About the jetting: A pro will be glad to do it for you, for a fee. But, he doesn't own or ride the bike. YOU do. Your quad communicates to you as you ride it. When you feel the powerband coming on at the right time and that sharp Toomey crack in your ears :D, you know it's close to being right. Jet rich and lean it out as needed. That way you won't blow an engine, and you'll still have a margain of error.
 
running your machine WOT to do a plug choke will only tell you if your main jet is correct..
when you do mess with the needle moving the clip down will richen it up and moving the clip up with lean it out stock is in the middle...
but make sure when you are jetting the carb to only mess with one circuit at a time like get the main jet sorted out, THEN mess with the needle, THEN mess with the pilot so if something doesnt work youll know what caused the problem
 
running your machine WOT to do a plug choke will only tell you if your main jet is correct..
when you do mess with the needle moving the clip down will richen it up and moving the clip up with lean it out stock is in the middle...
but make sure when you are jetting the carb to only mess with one circuit at a time like get the main jet sorted out, THEN mess with the needle, THEN mess with the pilot so if something doesnt work youll know what caused the problem

Ha I'm so lucky to have all these people help me. Thanks for the info! +1
 
You could pay a professional to jet it for you, but where's the fun in that?! Lol. I live for that sense of satisfaction that comes from my job well done. Like my boss' '86 Moto-4 that finally fired and ran today after having been in about 15 major pieces for the last two months. ;)

Anyways, YES, you do have to run the engine at WOT to get an accurate plug chop, but only for a few seconds. Basically, put in a fresh plug. Then, just get out on the straightaway and wind it up through all the gears, shifting normally. When you top out in 6th at WOT, keep the throttle held open, and immediately shut off the engine. Pull in the clutch and coast to a stop. Then, remove the plug and take your reading.

Of course, if you're like me and run out of room to run all too quckly, you can skip a couple gears. The point of this technique is to put the engine under full load at all RPM's for at least 30 seconds. This allows enough deposits to build up on the plug so that you can take an accurate reading. However you achieve these circumstances is up to you.

About the jetting: A pro will be glad to do it for you, for a fee. But, he doesn't own or ride the bike. YOU do. Your quad communicates to you as you ride it. When you feel the powerband coming on at the right time and that sharp Toomey crack in your ears :D, you know it's close to being right. Jet rich and lean it out as needed. That way you won't blow an engine, and you'll still have a margain of error.


Dude, Thanks so much for this info. I will probably do it myself, knowing me i will probably set it at a 320 jet and get it first shot, lol. I have an 89 Yamaha Moto-4, it has a tranny issue but still runs strong!