my cr 125 intake cost me less than my vf3's thats including buying pro reeds for like 80 bucks...and honestly i was dissapointed with the vf3s, all i got was a slight throttle responce improvement..half the ppl that seem to think they are "the best" probably havent used them, or tried different setups. get what will work best with your setup. If you are running a small bore cylinder, they will suit you better..but ive only used both so who knows.