i completely agree with everything everyone has said so far. the hole thirty and over though, come on guys jsut make it an old folks post and call it a day...jk....im 26 and worked ever since i was 11. if i wanted it i had to get a job to pay for it, my first quad i bought when i was 23 and i didnt know a darn thing about them. now i own 2 blasters, a kx60 and a scrambler 50, two rc cars, rc boat, 93 f150 4x4 and have fun with all of them and still have a wife and three kids to provide for so i understand where the older guys are coming from and also i understand were the kids are coming from because i lived in 2 boys homes, 2 foster homes, went to 3 high school, 2 middle schools and 3 elementry schools. but no one take this a poor me speach im just saying that ist all on how you were raised the things you were exposed to and also the people you were exposed to along with there attituds, but also it has a lot to do with who your parents had around as well. as a child grows up there is a lot of infulence and sometimes not enought guidence to help dicifer the difference between black, white and grey. just saying....so please no one take offence to this and sorry about all the spelling errors.