What will happen?

[Larry's Shee]

What will happen if you put hydros on the back but leave the Blaster rotor/hub? My old brain just isn't wrapping around this one.

Go ahead and flame this old fart, I have thick and weathered skin.

Messing with 2 strokes since before they had reed valves.I:I

 

[blasterfreek30]

u can do that with no probs at all...unless im missing something??

 

[sicivicdude]

If you have a floating caliper and a floating hub, it can walk far enough out to let the hub fall off the splines and get weiner-eyed OR the assembly can walk off the caliper pins depending on what type of caliper it is.

Basically, floating calipers are designed for fixed discs so as the pads wear the caliper can move around to compensate.

Floating discs are designed to fixed calipers so as the pads wear the disc can move around to compensate.

 

[slickerthanyou]

What will happen if you put hydros on the back but leave the Blaster rotor/hub? My old brain just isn't wrapping around this one.

Go ahead and flame this old fart, I have thick and weathered skin.

Messing with 2 strokes since before they had reed valves.I:I

You will have great rear brakes! This is what I have done! No problems using AWKs hook up with a bracket. If ya have a hydro setup already just need to make a bracket to fit the caliper to the carrier. and your done.

Now what doesn't make sense?

 

[bagds101]

been wondering the same thing myself. i have rear hydros laying around, but i need the master cylinder and the brake pedal for hydros

 

[toytech]

you will have a blaster with good rear brakes

 

[Braaaptor]

If you have a floating caliper and a floating hub, it can walk far enough out to let the hub fall off the splines and get weiner-eyed OR the assembly can walk off the caliper pins depending on what type of caliper it is.

Basically, floating calipers are designed for fixed discs so as the pads wear the caliper can move around to compensate.

Floating discs are designed to fixed calipers so as the pads wear the disc can move around to compensate.

'Nuff said. 15151515151515

 

[sicivicdude]

You can use a "sport quad" style caliper like comes on the 03+ blaster but you need to mount the caliper solid so it doesn't float. You can make a bracket like awk's which mounts the caliper solid to the carrier (or you could just contact awk about a bracket kit and put GSXR brakes on your blaster)

Either way, hydraulic brakes are a GREAT upgrade, just make sure both pieces don't float and you won't get into any trouble with the caliper or rotor walk around.

 

[Larry's Shee]

My bad, should have been more specific on what I had for caliper. Double floating system would be like a double negative, lol. Got one with a double piston nissan caliper, master and rezzie. Would have to figure out what it is cause it needs pads. Got one or two other set ups got with a bunch of shee parts. Know there not shee.
As far as "fixing" the rotor I may just weld it to the axle.
Thank you for your replies.!!

 

[sicivicdude]

Whoa, I wouldn't just weld it to the axle unless you really take your time and make damn sure it's running trued and straight.

You don't have to weld the disc to the axle...If you have a caliper you can fix to a bracket, you can just use the floating disc setup.

 

[DirtDiggler]

Yeah , if you bare using a dual piston caliper theres no need to go all willy nilly and weld the rotor to the axle . The Caliper on my Blaster is from a 96 gsxr sportbike , and the pistons squeeze the rotor from each side , so the adjustment comes from the pistons just pushing out from their bores a little farther . I used the master cylinder and reservoir from a cr125 dirtbike , and fabbed the carrier bracket and brake pedal extension in the garage . Once you get rid of that crappy rear brake , them drums will be going in the garbage soon . I swapped over to front hydro's . I have a 2000 Banshee as well . I wanted the " Family " to match .....

 

[Larry's Shee]

Unfortunatly it's two pistons on the same side. Depending on how my Warrior partout goes might take caliper off that. My son only paid $100 for it with a blown clutch, not worth putting lots of money into.

 

[sicivicdude]

That dual piston caliper can work too as long as you mount it without using the slider pins. Mount it solid using a bracket and let the disc float.

 

[Larry's Shee]

Gotcha, thanks!! Have to put some thought into it tomorrow. Just got it running with a fresh top end and it ain't no fun without breaks. Put new pads in it adjusted ,bla,bla bla, still wont stay adjusted and can't get BS adjuster seperate.

 

[sicivicdude]

Just make sure the bracket you make has the caliper mounted in such a way as the disc is centered inside the axle splined area and it should work great.

 

[Larry's Shee]

Check, pretty rusty, don't know if it moves much

 

[sicivicdude]

In order to work properly the disc needs to be able to slide back and forth. PB blaster should free it up with a little work. Keep it well greased and it will slide easily.

If the disc cannot slide, the pads will wear unevenly. One side will wear out quicker than the other.

 

[N8tsNastyBlasty]

reminds me of quote from my lil bro "I dont run brakes on anything i ride, damn things just slow you down". lol I found a sportbike brake that i literally bolted to the stock bracket! i only drilled one hole ! im just trying to get the pedal geometry down now.

 

[Larry's Shee]

Decide to put Warrior brakes from my part-out on it. Have bracket cut out, need to drill holes for caliper and get/make some offset sleves to mount to carrier. Question I have is for welding bracket to frame for master what have others done about electrics on quad? To prevent frying them , or is it not a problem? Thanks. I:I

 

[Larry's Shee]

Well got the Warrior brakes mounted. Need to get pads for it, think I got some decent ones around (cheap a$$). Extended pedal, welded brackets for master, have to shorten hose for rezzie and mount by air box.

Claiper bracket looks simular to awks. Master mounts in "vee" between main tube and sub frame.

When I get finished I'll get my son to take pics and post them for me. I can twist a wrench but when it comes to computers "I'm sofa king we todd did"

BTW, It's so much more fun with brakes, you can actually go faster. Go figureI:I

Also I disconnected stator, cdi, coil, volt reg for welding, NO problems afterwards. Thanks for imput!!