Reason for air restriction

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I've searched everywhere for an answer and I can't find one. What is the reason to restrict airflow into a combustion engine by using a throttle body (FI) or the throttle valve (carborator). I've read that throttle bodies improve efficiency but why? To me it would make it harder for the engine to draw in air therefore using more fuel. So what is the reason for it. Deisel engines don't have throttle bodies as I've read. I feel like if you made the throttle body stay wide open all the time you would have better fuel economy. Also why do 4-stroke exhaust need back pressure? Is the only reason for it to keep the engine from blowing up? This has been bothering me for a while!
 
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4 strokes engines do not need back pressure.

“Backpressure” is a fairly common term regarding the resistance to flow of some piping system (ex: exhaust pipe) when the pressure at some point downstream of this resistance is known. In the case of an exhaust pipe, the outlet of the pipe is open to atmosphere, so we know the pressure at this point is atmospheric pressure. But because there is flow through the pipe, which represents a resistance to flow, the pressure is not atmospheric pressure all the way up the pipe to the engine. If you were to measure the pressure at various points along the exhaust pipe, you’d find that the closer you got to the engine, the higher the pressure would be. This is simply because there’s a resistance to flow of any fluid through a pipe. So the term “backpressure” simply says that there is a pressure drop through a pipe and the pressure at the inlet of the pipe is higher than the outlet and we generally acknowledge that it’s the outlet of the pipe who’s pressure is knowable. This is true for the exhaust on a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke engine. Clear as mud so far?

In the case of the 4 stroke, the desire is to eliminate ALL the burned gasses from the cylinder when the piston gets to TDC - so the more backpressure, the higher the pressure will be inside the cylinder, and the less exhaust gas we will be able to expel. We don’t want those gasses inside the cylinder, so we want the backpressure on a 4 stroke to be as low as possible. Here’s a decent discussion on 4 strokes:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question172.htm

In the case of a 2 stroke, the thing that’s clearing the exhaust from the cylinder isn’t the piston going up to TDC because the piston is in fact only a little past BDC when the exhaust gasses are displaced. For a 2 stroke, it’s the sweeping of the cylinder by the fresh charge of air and fuel which is pushing the exhaust gas out. If there’s no back pressure, the fresh air and fuel will not only sweep out the exhaust gasses, but they will also begin to exit with the exhaust gas, resulting in a loss of fuel and air which reduces efficiency. If the back pressure is too high, the exhaust gasses can’t all be removed by the fresh charge. So for 2 strokes, there is an optimal back pressure to produce the most efficient fuel use while maximizing power. This optimal back pressure must be tuned to a certain RPM, because above and below that RPM, one of the two problems will surface. 2 strokes have a very dynamic gas flow which is difficult to optimize because of this. Most 2 stroke mfg’s simply tune the engine at a given RPM and throttle setting which results in the best overall performance.

This is a rather simplified explanation of the 2 stroke, there are other considerations. A small amount of back pressure for example can increase the total air/fuel charge in the cylinder by raising the pressure at the point the exhaust port is closed off. If you’d like to read more, I’d suggest these:
http://www.indopedia.org/Two-stroke_cycle.html
http://forums.mustangworks.com/330208-post7.html
 
I don't really know but I would assume the restriction of air intake has to do with achieving a certain air fuel ratio if the airflow always remained constant the ratio would constantly be changing and with many engines and carburetors vacuum is part of what makes the system work. with free flowing air a vacuum could not be created? maybe I don't really know
 
I've searched everywhere for an answer and I can't find one. What is the reason to restrict airflow into a combustion engine by using a throttle body (FI) or the throttle valve (carborator). I've read that throttle bodies improve efficiency but why? To me it would make it harder for the engine to draw in air therefore using more fuel. So what is the reason for it. Deisel engines don't have throttle bodies as I've read. I feel like if you made the throttle body stay wide open all the time you would have better fuel economy. Also why do 4-stroke exhaust need back pressure? Is the only reason for it to keep the engine from blowing up? This has been bothering me for a while!


I have no idea, but that blaster in your avatar is bad azz
 
Diesels dont mind running lean, so have an open intake. There is an abundance of air available and fuel is just injected as required (basically a flow control/proportional valve).

Petrol /gas engines want a spicific air fuel ratio, or they will burn/melt to pieces... so the air and amount of fuel is important!

You need a restriction to create a pressure drop, so suck fuel through the carb (venturi)

There are more technicalities with tuning and port size, length, manifold shape and size that all influence the performance of a motor. But thats not really what was asked for here.

By the way, diesels get damaged/overheated when TOO much fuel is added. And will even run on its own motor oil if a turbo seal fails.... not as fun as it sounds though. .........
 
Diesels dont mind running lean, so have an open intake. There is an abundance of air available and fuel is just injected as required (basically a flow control/proportional valve).

reminded my of the time my grandpa told me about a diesel tractor take off uncontrolled because the owner put gas in it instead.... and said they couldnt get it to shut off till it blew up
 
Diesels dont mind running lean, so have an open intake. There is an abundance of air available and fuel is just injected as required (basically a flow control/proportional valve).

Petrol /gas engines want a spicific air fuel ratio, or they will burn/melt to pieces... so the air and amount of fuel is important!

You need a restriction to create a pressure drop, so suck fuel through the carb (venturi)

There are more technicalities with tuning and port size, length, manifold shape and size that all influence the performance of a motor. But thats not really what was asked for here.

By the way, diesels get damaged/overheated when TOO much fuel is added. And will even run on its own motor oil if a turbo seal fails.... not as fun as it sounds though. .........
Thanks for putting in a way i could understand it! So are you saying that throttle bodies barely have an effect on power if tuned properyly? And do formula 1 race cars have them?