Yes. i decided that i'll just use the gas to burn down the crack house a few blocks away Hopefully all the crack heads will still be in it!
If it were your quad....
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Yes. i decided that i'll just use the gas to burn down the crack house a few blocks away Hopefully all the crack heads will still be in it!
What if it was a 4 stroke? The gas I put in my honda has been sitting in it since mid december, Its a lot of gas so I don't want to waste it if I don't have to. Should it be fine?
Well 4 strokes aren't as susceptible to octane loss as 2 strokes are. Much less of the engine cooling takes place from fuel evaporating.
You can treat the gasoline with an ounce or two of seafoam and slosh it around. Loosen the float bowl drain screw and turn the petcock to reserve (as braptor said I think) and let a little run out to make sure you don't have any water in the bottom of the tank and to change the gasoline in the float bowl out so you're not trying to run on that bad gasoline that was in the carburetor. Once it fires up, listen for any problems and if you encounter any, shut the engine off and clean out the fuel system. Chances are, if anything in your carburetor isn't already gummed/stopped up it's not going to happen by running it and if it is gummed/stopped up, running it isn't going to hurt anything either!
Just use your common sense and don't be afraid to pull the carburetor apart if it's gummed/stopped up.
You can treat the gasoline with an ounce or two of seafoam and slosh it around. Loosen the float bowl drain screw and turn the petcock to reserve (as braptor said I think) and let a little run out to make sure you don't have any water in the bottom of the tank and to change the gasoline in the float bowl out so you're not trying to run on that bad gasoline that was in the carburetor. Once it fires up, listen for any problems and if you encounter any, shut the engine off and clean out the fuel system. Chances are, if anything in your carburetor isn't already gummed/stopped up it's not going to happen by running it and if it is gummed/stopped up, running it isn't going to hurt anything either!
Just use your common sense and don't be afraid to pull the carburetor apart if it's gummed/stopped up.
well this is a total thread hijack, but I think it might be the gas, I keep trying to start the ATV, and it has strong spark and compression and everything, it just keeps flooding. I took the plug out and it reeks of gas and is wet. Is this bad gas?
Basic diagnostics. Take a new spark plug and install it in the spark plug cap and lay it against the head. See if it has nice consistant, strong blue spark. If it does, go ahead and install the new spark plug.
Try to start the engine without the choke first and see if it sputters. If the choke enrichment valve has gummed up over the winter, it's already partially open and opening it further will only flood it out worse. Most newer model quads don't need all of their choke unless it's -20F outside so full choke isn't necessary.
If it doesn't pop over, try a small amount of choke. If it still doesn't want to start, pull the airbox lid off and see if the carburetor float is stuck and flooding gas into the airbox/engine. If the airfilter is soaked in gas, it's a pretty good indication the carburetor needs to be removed and disassembled playing very close attention to all of the pilot holes.
Try to start the engine without the choke first and see if it sputters. If the choke enrichment valve has gummed up over the winter, it's already partially open and opening it further will only flood it out worse. Most newer model quads don't need all of their choke unless it's -20F outside so full choke isn't necessary.
If it doesn't pop over, try a small amount of choke. If it still doesn't want to start, pull the airbox lid off and see if the carburetor float is stuck and flooding gas into the airbox/engine. If the airfilter is soaked in gas, it's a pretty good indication the carburetor needs to be removed and disassembled playing very close attention to all of the pilot holes.
its a 1987 lol I think something is stuck open or closed in the carb because thats been happening lately, but yea I'll give it a try. thanks for your time.
This statement is confusing. :-/ You don't want to run 4 strokers on bad gas either. It will drop octane points all the same, but air cooled 2 strokes do pretty much rely on the fuel as the "coolant".
What about that is confusing? You agreed with my point.
My point is, an air cooled 2 stroke engine relies heavily on the incoming fuel mixture to cool the engine. Losing volatility (gas "going bad" or losing it's octane rating by the lighter end hydrocarbons evaporating off) decreases the fuels latent heat draw as it atomizes and increases it's potential to pre-detonate. Both leading to loss in cooling effect on the engine.
4 stroke engines aren't bothered as much by lower octane fuel (generally speaking unless it's a hopped up race bike which his honda whatever he's working on is not) because they don't rely nearly as much on the fuel for the cooling effect.
I'm not implying 4 strokes like bad gas any more than a 2 stroke does but it's not as detrimental to the engine to run slightly stale gas in it. They can chug down a little lower octane fuel and not be any worse for the wear where significantly lower octane fuel in an air cooled 2 stroke might be the end of it.
My point is, an air cooled 2 stroke engine relies heavily on the incoming fuel mixture to cool the engine. Losing volatility (gas "going bad" or losing it's octane rating by the lighter end hydrocarbons evaporating off) decreases the fuels latent heat draw as it atomizes and increases it's potential to pre-detonate. Both leading to loss in cooling effect on the engine.
4 stroke engines aren't bothered as much by lower octane fuel (generally speaking unless it's a hopped up race bike which his honda whatever he's working on is not) because they don't rely nearly as much on the fuel for the cooling effect.
I'm not implying 4 strokes like bad gas any more than a 2 stroke does but it's not as detrimental to the engine to run slightly stale gas in it. They can chug down a little lower octane fuel and not be any worse for the wear where significantly lower octane fuel in an air cooled 2 stroke might be the end of it.
