^^^ yeah but it you have less to push it becomes less of a factor... read a book. learn something... theres a reason they build most machines with more hp than tq.
Hp vs Tq
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a higher hpwr motor will only make more power at peak rpm the motor with more torque will make more power everywhere else in the rpm range so how do u think the higher hpwr motor will win??? in a quad that means the motor will make more power from say 8000 - 8500 rpm the higher torque motor will make more power from idle to 8000 rpm get the idea now???????
bwahahaha read a book and learn something huh?? listen up einstein ive been professionally building and racing anything with wheels for 25 plus years ive probably forgoten more about the internal combustion engine than u will ever know!!
All the BB and modded 400ex and Warriors and my bro-in-laws big bor and stroker 446 wolverine probably have more Tq then my blaster, and i KILL them!!!I:I
You forget the part where with each gear you shift up. your torque output is decreased substantially so by 5 gear "Einstein" that 35 is gonna be way down near say 15 ft lbs. While the hp will stay the same. This is also why you shift at peak Hp rpms not peak torque rpms. because if you rely on peak torque you are going to be missing out on lost power.
torque output of the motor does not decrease with a gear change torque multplication does!!! go back to math class lol
also if u shift past peak torque your not accelerating anymore your just carrying the same power farther out than u made at peak torque 8-|
its multiplied by the gear so unless ur 5th or 6th gear is above 1.00 which is a little high i would say for drag racing then its going to decrease torque.
Horsepower vs torque
this will explain it so you can understand that by the time you reach ur final couple gears ur torque is decreased. Oh and ur saying that if i shift at around 5500 rpm which is the idle torque output for any setup that im not going to be going any faster than shifting at redline or peak rpm. lols. you cant gain speed without increasing rpm i dont care how much torque u have...
Horsepower vs torque
this will explain it so you can understand that by the time you reach ur final couple gears ur torque is decreased. Oh and ur saying that if i shift at around 5500 rpm which is the idle torque output for any setup that im not going to be going any faster than shifting at redline or peak rpm. lols. you cant gain speed without increasing rpm i dont care how much torque u have...
i am still waiting for bad to post up this engine dyno that said at 8100rpm, a car made 902ft-lbs but only 630ish hp. still waiting dude.
1) this is 100 percent impossible, because HP = T * engine speed / 5252.11X
this is the physic's formula for hp.
ok think about this.
T = F * perpendicular distance of axis
if we are talking about torque at the wheels, then it will change when ever you change gear ratio (on a quad, when you put different size tires, sprockets, shift gears, ect)
so at the rear wheels you get your acceleration from F=ma
to more torque you have with the smaller D, the more force you have.
so the more force you have with the smaller mass, the more acceleration you have.
oh forgot to add: there is a max force you can have before either the tires lose traction or the car starts to lift.
also peak numbers dont mean sh*t. it is all about the torque curve.
and it should never be HP v Tq in the way you are talking about since HP is a dependant of Tq. without torque and engine speed, there is no HP.
1) this is 100 percent impossible, because HP = T * engine speed / 5252.11X
this is the physic's formula for hp.
ok think about this.
T = F * perpendicular distance of axis
if we are talking about torque at the wheels, then it will change when ever you change gear ratio (on a quad, when you put different size tires, sprockets, shift gears, ect)
so at the rear wheels you get your acceleration from F=ma
to more torque you have with the smaller D, the more force you have.
so the more force you have with the smaller mass, the more acceleration you have.
oh forgot to add: there is a max force you can have before either the tires lose traction or the car starts to lift.
also peak numbers dont mean sh*t. it is all about the torque curve.
and it should never be HP v Tq in the way you are talking about since HP is a dependant of Tq. without torque and engine speed, there is no HP.
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It's about the area under the curve. Tq is the amount of work that machine can do, Hp is how fast that work can be done.
Good info 
very helpful for the forum....Ok so what im understanding from the info, the tq is what will give you moving, but at certain point HP is what will matter since its what it will give you the mph.
So in the 300ft the higher tq quad will walk through the higher hp quad, but when you take this to a longer track, its a different story.
But in my opinion, when you are dragging, you would want a slight more tq than hp to get you that jump, cuz like 442 said, et wins.
very helpful for the forum....Ok so what im understanding from the info, the tq is what will give you moving, but at certain point HP is what will matter since its what it will give you the mph.So in the 300ft the higher tq quad will walk through the higher hp quad, but when you take this to a longer track, its a different story.
But in my opinion, when you are dragging, you would want a slight more tq than hp to get you that jump, cuz like 442 said, et wins.
I just looked through this thread, there are some retards on here. Take the class "Design of Machine Elements." Maybe you'll learn something about transferring torque.
Also, would this explain why some 4-strokes kill 2-strokes in lower gears, but when you get to the higher gears the 2-stroke if it has the room it will walk it...because the raw hp numbers??
true, but when it comes to the motor, RT wont matter cuz its all bout the driver
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