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Well i knew it was between .28-.32 but my " Gapper " only has .25 - .30 - .35 So i was seeing if someone would suggest that.
When taking my cylinder head off today i dropped my plug so that's why i need to know. Mine's K.I.A. too! X(
I could be wrong but I thought I read a thread say 19 seemed to be the best. I'm not sure who it was.
That's what i do, but like i was saying i dropped it, and the points were touching. So i HAD to gap it.
i know it sounds stupid but we talk about jetting for elevation and do plug chops and CONSTANTLY check for air leaks right? so if we go thru all that to optimize our performance, checking a gap wouldnt be something to take for granted. also, i 'cut' my plug so i HAVE to gap every time i install one. cut plug = more spark exposed= better throttle response. maybe ill do a dyi for cutting plugs... its an old drag race trick, i just dont do it to extreme on a 2 smoke. just for shi*ts, when you do check your gaps, post your results to see the difference...
i think he means cutting the threads down a little bit but not to much to get a increase in power
^^Kinda, but not the threads. i cut the wire back. just so it sits about half way over the electrode instead of covering it like a hood. its hard to explain, ill put pics up in a few. all those plugs that say the 'improve power' by having More wires like the Splitfire,(anyone remeber them?) or even the E3's all theyre doing is shielding your fuel from the spark that is meant to ignite it.theyre a Fad, and dont work. they cant defy physics. picture a candle, not a jar one but like a stick candle. now say you have a spray bottle of gas. if you squirt it from the side or top; Poof! flamage! now, picture the same candle's flame surrounded by a bunch of wires standing up. same spray breaks up all over the wires before it hits the flame and 'Pfft' you still get flame but it doesnt burn as quick and its less intense. old drag racers have been Cutting Plugs for years, since the 60's. most take the wire and cut the top of the L right off. i Dont Do That. lets face it, its not a 1500hp Drag motor! i only take off like alittle so the top of the electrode is a little more exposed. it starts easier for me and i get better combustion. it all equals to a little bit more power and throttle response if the fuel is meeting a less obstructed spark. you can google it to give you a more Experienced explanation. also look it up under spark plug indexing as well, but thats another trick. besides, we cut plugs up ALL THE TIME! Lol, this is just my little trick to give me a lil bit more Umpf!
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ok, here some pics. i apologize for the crumby phone photos but, u get the idea.
first one, brand new just opened B8ES
Second one, this is what i meant about checking your gap, brand new and the gap is .022 thats too small right outta the box!!!
Third one, i bent the wire up just a bit so i dont damage the electrode while cutting.
Fourth one, Cut and re-gapped at .030 perfectamundo!!! for you old school wrenches out there who happen to have a set of Points files kickin around, this is what i use to take off and burrs from the dremel. for those of you who dont know what the fu*k 'points files are, try grabbing your gf's or mom's nail files, same thing kinda. just dont get caught! and if you do? i have NO Idea about Anything....
try it with one plug, and see if you notice the difference, it only takes a second but, you be the judge if its worth it. gd luck and enjoy...
first one, brand new just opened B8ES
Second one, this is what i meant about checking your gap, brand new and the gap is .022 thats too small right outta the box!!!
Third one, i bent the wire up just a bit so i dont damage the electrode while cutting.
Fourth one, Cut and re-gapped at .030 perfectamundo!!! for you old school wrenches out there who happen to have a set of Points files kickin around, this is what i use to take off and burrs from the dremel. for those of you who dont know what the fu*k 'points files are, try grabbing your gf's or mom's nail files, same thing kinda. just dont get caught! and if you do? i have NO Idea about Anything....
try it with one plug, and see if you notice the difference, it only takes a second but, you be the judge if its worth it. gd luck and enjoy...
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For every day riding, to me, plug cutting is a pointless exercise, unless one is using race formula fuels, and superiour combustion chambers.
Yes cut plugs do improve ignition on motors built for sheer speed, but they reduce the realiability of lesser tuned motors and they will foul more easily.
Cutting of the earth electrode actually reduces the effeciency and life of the plug when using standard fuels.
A spark will always find the point of least resistance when jumping between electrodes.
The centre electrode on a standard uncut plug has 360deg of area to choose where to spark from.
On a cut plug, or a plug designed for racing, the area of choice is reduced to under 10deg.
Take a look at some pics of racing plugs, most of them have an earth electrode made of fine wire so that it will not intefere with the ignition, and has immediate access to the charge to be fired.
Horses for courses!... Stick with a bog stock B8ES in a stockish motor.
Yes cut plugs do improve ignition on motors built for sheer speed, but they reduce the realiability of lesser tuned motors and they will foul more easily.
Cutting of the earth electrode actually reduces the effeciency and life of the plug when using standard fuels.
A spark will always find the point of least resistance when jumping between electrodes.
The centre electrode on a standard uncut plug has 360deg of area to choose where to spark from.
On a cut plug, or a plug designed for racing, the area of choice is reduced to under 10deg.
Take a look at some pics of racing plugs, most of them have an earth electrode made of fine wire so that it will not intefere with the ignition, and has immediate access to the charge to be fired.
Horses for courses!... Stick with a bog stock B8ES in a stockish motor.
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in a stock type motor, i agree. if you use you quad only to trail ride, i agree. on those occasions that you just wanna 'Grip it n Rip it', i disagree. i think, For Me<<<, i dont mind the little extra Whoop i get. hell, i chop plugs atleast 1 a month to check to see if my jetting is spot on for all the little changes in weather, terrain, heat, cold... so im still buying plugs just to chuck in the trash anyways. some of us have removed Alot of material from our cylinders in porting, added material in cranks and rods for stroking. its finding a good balance of that Whoop Factor. cut plugs lives are only Half the life of a regular plug. so they do have a shorter life than that of an uncut plug. but the fact for Me is, im not riding it on the highway or using it to get groceries, im riding the living hell outta it and having Fun. so, if i can tweak this and mod that, im doing it all to make it go faster or Rip It Up!
As I said before; this trick is Not intended for everyone. if you wanna try it? do. if youre afraid of it? dont. just remember what your mom said about eating; 'How do you know you dont like it, if youve never even tried it?' lol, i did try liver, and NO i didnt like it. but this little mod i did. you be the judge...
Yup, if you are gonna ride wild, on wild mods, with wild fuel, then cut the plug.
If you are more reserved, with a stockish motor. with standard fuel, don't cut the plug.
If you are more reserved, with a stockish motor. with standard fuel, don't cut the plug.
