Ok, so I have completely confused the holy living hell out of myself. I am going to make a complete write up and link it to lasxgames write up so there is no more confusion just need a few questions answered once in for all.
#1. the clutch video floating around here sucks, it is for Honda, and does not address metal disc placement
#2. The service manual does not address this either so......
Most here suggests the 3, 6, 9... o'clock so forth. I have always done it at 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12. Because like the factory set up there is no overlap, which the 3, 6, 9, 12, 3, 6, does have on last plates.
However, there have been numerous clutch help threads and I think it would be much easier for members to do this by the actual slots in the inner clutch basket/boss. There are 23 slots on clutch boss, the notch on the metal plates line up with inner slots which is why I am choosing the boss and not the outer basket.
So could someone please answer why straight from Yamaha, (never touched since new) the clutch starting from dot on clutch boss and first disc exposed went. 3rd slot to left, 6th, then jumped to 12th, 16th, 20th, 23 slot. This follows no order, it does have no overlap however as the 3,6,9, ... o'clock suggestion does.
There is uneven number of slots, but stock setup is off from any even spacing, I believe this is the first time I have ever seen the discs arranged straight from factory, but this leaves a big ? with me. Was my clutch just put in wrong from factory, in regards to disc spacing?
So, if in fact you were going to do it the way I have always known, the discs would go similar to the factory in that they do not overlap and they would go every fourth slot with the last plate being three slots away from first.
Finally, the wave disc, So technically this is in for ? I have no idea, something about making the clutch easier for beginners (I haven't found a straight answer) but I've seen that it can be replaced with full disc.
So lets talk about replacing it. Stock clutch goes friction plate, metal plate, wave disc, Skinny friction plate, metal plate. So when replacing the wave disc, I have seen many threads claiming replace with friction plate. Doesn't it also need metal plate to seperate from the next friction plate which is the skinny one, and doesn't this also need replaced with full size disc?
If you are not sure, and you are just going to post 3, 6, 9, o'clock because you have seen it in another thread do not post. If in fact you do believe it should go this way, could you please give explanation of why. I know it will work this way, but I do not believe it to be correct and it also is not the way it is done from factory, so I am wondering why it is suggested so often, I think I even got confused on this at one point.
If someone could answer these questions, it would be great, then I will take the time to do complete write up including pics.
#1. the clutch video floating around here sucks, it is for Honda, and does not address metal disc placement
#2. The service manual does not address this either so......
Most here suggests the 3, 6, 9... o'clock so forth. I have always done it at 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12. Because like the factory set up there is no overlap, which the 3, 6, 9, 12, 3, 6, does have on last plates.
However, there have been numerous clutch help threads and I think it would be much easier for members to do this by the actual slots in the inner clutch basket/boss. There are 23 slots on clutch boss, the notch on the metal plates line up with inner slots which is why I am choosing the boss and not the outer basket.
So could someone please answer why straight from Yamaha, (never touched since new) the clutch starting from dot on clutch boss and first disc exposed went. 3rd slot to left, 6th, then jumped to 12th, 16th, 20th, 23 slot. This follows no order, it does have no overlap however as the 3,6,9, ... o'clock suggestion does.
There is uneven number of slots, but stock setup is off from any even spacing, I believe this is the first time I have ever seen the discs arranged straight from factory, but this leaves a big ? with me. Was my clutch just put in wrong from factory, in regards to disc spacing?
So, if in fact you were going to do it the way I have always known, the discs would go similar to the factory in that they do not overlap and they would go every fourth slot with the last plate being three slots away from first.
Finally, the wave disc, So technically this is in for ? I have no idea, something about making the clutch easier for beginners (I haven't found a straight answer) but I've seen that it can be replaced with full disc.
So lets talk about replacing it. Stock clutch goes friction plate, metal plate, wave disc, Skinny friction plate, metal plate. So when replacing the wave disc, I have seen many threads claiming replace with friction plate. Doesn't it also need metal plate to seperate from the next friction plate which is the skinny one, and doesn't this also need replaced with full size disc?
If you are not sure, and you are just going to post 3, 6, 9, o'clock because you have seen it in another thread do not post. If in fact you do believe it should go this way, could you please give explanation of why. I know it will work this way, but I do not believe it to be correct and it also is not the way it is done from factory, so I am wondering why it is suggested so often, I think I even got confused on this at one point.
If someone could answer these questions, it would be great, then I will take the time to do complete write up including pics.
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