What is the best fuel to run?

blasterfied

Member
Nov 14, 2013
356
54
80
45
Coal City, Illinois
This warmer weather has given me the itch to dust off the Blaster.

Hopefully by this weekend the roads will be clear enough to go for a quick ride.

I was just thinking about fuel grade...me and my buddies use 93 octane. What is the best fuel to run through a stock blaster?
I heard running high-octane racing fuel allows the engine to run hotter giving out a higher range of power.

What is your opinions on this?
 
correct me if im wrong but the higher the octane i beleive the cooler it runs or burns ...thats why you need race gas on certain mods because of detenation also the local yamaha shop told me it burns cooler i always thought it was hotter until recently but like i said correct me if im wrong since i dont pay much attetion to it just always run 93 sunoco
 
It's a common question when I did a google search. Some say hotter some say colder. But the different I found was the higher octane for higher compression. Not worth getting into....case closed.
 
it will burn just as fast as lower octane gas, but still harder to ignite, correct?

i got out of it, that higher octane fuels will withstand higher compression ratios and heat without self igniting.
so in a sense yes, higher octane fuels are harder to ignite.
an 87 octane, at say 185 compression on our bikes may "self ignite" (detonation) where a 93 octane will resist that pre ignition longer and ignite at the correct point of the compression/power stroke.

key points qouted from the article:

The octane rating of the fuel is directly related to its resistance to detonation. The higher the octane the higher pressures/heat the fuel can withstand before ignition. The rate at which this fuel burns has VERY little to do with the octane rating. The chemical soup of the fuel will determine the fuel's burn rate under IDEAL conditions. Since we KNOW that under combustion (active radicals, residual un-burnt mixes , squish action etc.) is NOT IDEAL, then this burn rate can not be properly established nor calculated. We do not need to know this burn rate because we will adjust our ignition and combustion chamber design to accommodate ANY burn rate. So, it is really irrelevant for us.
Does the higher octane fuel burn at a slower rate than lower octane fuel? IMO.. MAYBE, SOMETIMES, YES, and NO.. See above.. the rate of burn is dependant on many variables but to state that just because the octane is higher, then the burn is slower, is 100% incorrect.

Octane is a measurement of a fuel's resistance to ignition. Ideally, the air/fuel mixture will ignite at the proper time and burn smoothly through the power stroke. The idea is that one powerful combustion of the air/fuel mixture is better than several randomly-ignited small flame fronts. When you can precisely control the point at which the fuel will ignite, maximum performance of the engine can be achieved, and power-robbing knock and ping will be eliminated. Knock and ping are a result of abnormal ignition, or multiple flame fronts colliding within the combustion chamber during the compression stroke.

The burn rate of a fuel is a measurement of the time required for complete combustion of the air/fuel mixture. The notion that octane ratings affect the burn rate of fuel is about 180-degrees from reality; burn rate is a function of several variables, and the two are completely independent, although there is generally a correlation between octane ratings and burn rates.

To give you a good example of this, we contacted Jim Wurth from Sunoco Race Fuels. He explains, "A perfect example is Sunoco Maximal, which is our fastest burning fuel, and coincidentally one of Sunoco's highest octane fuels at 116 (R+M) / 2. A lot of Pro Stock teams rely on Maximal for those sub-seven second runs. When they are turning 9,000 rpm or more, the fuel has to burn pretty quickly to achieve complete combustion".
 
1 thing I know is that oxygenated fuel[ethanol added]is harder on components and the alcohol attracts water,causing a shorter shelf life.When I worked at a small engine shop we did an experiment on pump gas.All at the pump grades had an ethanol content[even though they where claimed ethanol free]but we found that 93 had less ethanol than others.So this is why I will only run high octane in my toys.Remember machines desighned for running on alcohol have neoprene fuel lines and gaskets so that they last longer.Because alcohol is corrosive to rubber
 
run the lowest octane you can that doesn't produce detonation, a stock blaster engine can and will run just fine on 87 octane.

The problem is that hardly anyone has a bone stock Blaster and you cant hear a 2 stroke detonate. I could hear a 2cycle kart motor ping , but that was because my head was 6" away from it at 10,000-18,00 rpm.
 
I run 93 in everything I own.. wifesblaster will chime in I'm sure.. ask him what happened when he ran 89 in his street bike once.. too each his own.. the warm weather is getting closer..so hopefully will all will be burning up whatever octane it is we choose..lol
 
I run 93 in everything I own too. My truck, Car, Quads, Push Mower, Generator and Riding Mower.

That article really breaks it down well. But I'll still run 93!
 
I run 93 in everything I own.. wifesblaster will chime in I'm sure.. ask him what happened when he ran 89 in his street bike once.. too each his own.. the warm weather is getting closer..so hopefully will all will be burning up whatever octane it is we choose..lol

I too run 93 in everything I own. There is multiple reasons why. First and foremost is 93 octal has a better shelf life than 87. Also it contains more detergents that help keep your motor clean. The only thing I would ever run 87 octane in is my truck, simply because I use it everyday. I have gas in my generator that is 2 years old and it still runs fine.

I accidently put 87 in my R6 one time and it detonated like crazy. That is due to high compression though.