Toomey or F7

[darederek]

right now my motor is stock and i am going to start to upgrade in the coming months. i don't have anything huge planned. prob only some v-force 3's. at some point i may get it ported but not any time soon. would a toomey or f7 be better? i understand that the f7 will give me more growing room but will the toomey be better until i do bigger mods? most likely i won't port at all but there is always a possibility. would the toomey be bearable with a mx port? i pretty much have my mind set on toomey and i will be showin my parents that i want it for christmas soon so i have to make my decision thanks

 

[scotj77]

dude if you are on this site for long enough you will port. get the f7 it won't hurt. if you don't plan on ever really moding the blaster at all beyond the vf3's i would just buy a fmf because they are like a hundred bucks cheaper. unless you are more interested in top end then you should go f7

 

[Blasterdude27]

 

[darederek]

actually fmf isn't cheaper its the same as f7 with a colored silencer and not that much less than toomey. friend has a fmf and i don't really like it that much but then again i haven't riden it with it running perfect

 

[scotj77]

oh i swore i saw fmf's for like 230. maybe that was just the pipe no silencer. get the f7 then. sounds like you have already decided just looking for reasurance

 

[brandoz28]

you can get a nice used FMF setup for under 150 bucks, its hard to beat that deal if you're on a stocker.


i do really like my f7 though.

 

[darederek]

fmf wasn't an option. right now i just wanna know if toomey or f7 will be better for my current motor with vforces. and whether a toomey will be tolerable with a port. i can always sell the toomey and get a f7 when i port if it will be alot better right now. also i know the cpi pipes are mainly for modded motors but has anyone tried one on a stock motor? they are decent in price too

 

[darederek]

oh i swore i saw fmf's for like 230. maybe that was just the pipe no silencer. get the f7 then. sounds like you have already decided just looking for reasurance

that is the price of just the fatty no silencer

 

[darederek]

you can get a nice used FMF setup for under 150 bucks, its hard to beat that deal if you're on a stocker.


i do really like my f7 though.

have you tried any other pipes? your motor is pretty stock right? and also how is the power on the f7? i really liked the all in one kit thing with the toomey. and i have heard it is better than f7's on stock motors

 

[brandoz28]

i would talk to the builder you want to use for the port about what you want to do, and they will be able to help you choose your pipe as the port job needs to match the pipe.



the toomey seems to be a good pipe for what you're talking about doing, unless the builder you want to use down the road tells you that you're going to want something different.

 

[darederek]

oh and sry for all the posts but i want a brand new one. no used

 

[darederek]

i would talk to the builder you want to use for the port about what you want to do, and they will be able to help you choose your pipe as the port job needs to match the pipe.



the toomey seems to be a good pipe for what you're talking about doing, unless the builder you want to use down the road tells you that you're going to want something different.

i will shoot a pm to mr. oconnor then. i didn't think about that i could always have him port it too the toomey... then i would have what is best now. and still take the most advantage of my port. anyone else wanna chime in on this idea?

 

[Awk08]

ken has been running a toomey on his bike throughout all his porting advances, he just switched to the cpi now with his 240 motor, so the toomey will be fine with his porting in the future
but i still feel my bike pulled harder than his with my f7 and similar porting, i rode them both, back to back in july
so i'd say get the toomey for your motor, building/tuning experience, you'll still need to plug chop and fine tune starting with the jet provided with the kit

also, i'd like any builders to tell me what they do different for different pipes, i think thats all hogwash, created by some builder when he wanted to sell his buddies pipes?????? for example....kennedy and the garbage shearer pipes he was promoting,< where they both at now ????
an aggressive trail port from any builder is just that, same with a drag port, not pipe specific ?????? some porting may work better, pull harder with certain pipes, but are they actually increasing/decreasing port size/angle/duration for certain pipes, i think not !!!!!!
they would have to have every pipe available for r&d/testing, and you aint gettin all that for under $200
someone please correct me !!!!!

 

[darederek]

ken has been running a toomey on his bike throughout all his porting advances, he just switched to the cpi now with his 240 motor, so the toomey will be fine with his porting in the future
but i still feel my bike pulled harder than his with my f7 and similar porting, i rode them both, back to back in july
so i'd say get the toomey for your motor, building/tuning experience, you'll still need to plug chop and fine tune starting with the jet provided with the kit

also, i'd like any builders to tell me what they do different for different pipes, i think thats all hogwash, created by some builder when he wanted to sell his buddies pipes?????? for example....kennedy and the garbage shearer pipes he was promoting,< where they both at now ????
an aggressive trail port from any builder is just that, same with a drag port, not pipe specific ??????
they would have to have every pipe available for r&d, and you aint gettin all that for under $200
someone please correct me !!!!!

as of now the toomey is my plan. it seems to be the best for stock motors. i did send a pm to ken and i'm going to see what he says but toomey is probably going to remain my decision

 

[brandoz28]

if they have the exhaust port duration at hand that the pipe was designed to run with, then they will port it to that pipe.


that's one of the reasons the shearer would dyno better than the other pipes, because the port was designed around using that pipe.



and talking to wildcard, he does port your motor differently depending on what pipe you are planning on using.

 

[ivanb1]

toomey is the best for stock engines. If you bored your blaster use Dynoport.

 

[darederek]

i really hope you mean big bore

 

[blasterdemon7]

I don't know how they perform but I think the F7 pipes are the best sounding.

 

[Kgibson]

i'd like any builders to tell me what they do different for different pipes, i think thats all hogwash, created by some builder when he wanted to sell his buddies pipes?????? for example....kennedy and the garbage shearer pipes he was promoting,< where they both at now ????
an aggressive trail port from any builder is just that, same with a drag port, not pipe specific ?????? some porting may work better, pull harder with certain pipes, but are they actually increasing/decreasing port size/angle/duration for certain pipes, i think not !!!!!!
they would have to have every pipe available for r&d/testing, and you aint gettin all that for under $200
someone please correct me !!!!!

Actually a good builder will match the pipe. All they need is the port durations that the pipe was built for. A good builder working with a good pipe builder is a deadly combo...and I emphasize "good"

 

[blasterfreek30]

ken has been running a toomey on his bike throughout all his porting advances, he just switched to the cpi now with his 240 motor, so the toomey will be fine with his porting in the future
but i still feel my bike pulled harder than his with my f7 and similar porting, i rode them both, back to back in july
so i'd say get the toomey for your motor, building/tuning experience, you'll still need to plug chop and fine tune starting with the jet provided with the kit

also, i'd like any builders to tell me what they do different for different pipes, i think thats all hogwash, created by some builder when he wanted to sell his buddies pipes?????? for example....kennedy and the garbage shearer pipes he was promoting,< where they both at now ????
an aggressive trail port from any builder is just that, same with a drag port, not pipe specific ?????? some porting may work better, pull harder with certain pipes, but are they actually increasing/decreasing port size/angle/duration for certain pipes, i think not !!!!!!
they would have to have every pipe available for r&d/testing, and you aint gettin all that for under $200
someone please correct me !!!!!

hmmm. i see what u saying man, and i agree with ya 95 "percent" lol...i would think that only in a drag situation, u would would need to have the pipe perfectly matched to the port work...they are dealing with tenths of seconds so it has to be dead on all the angles and durations. i know that denny will port a motor diffrent for a fmf than he will for a f7...if the port work is setup for a fmf pipe and all those "sonic vibrations" in the exhaust flow...then its not gonna run to its full potential by putting on an f7 right?....because its a completely diffrent type of exhaust flow.......idk sounds good lol