The Future of Car and maybe Quads

The future powerplant for Cars

  • Gasoline

    Votes: 10 40.0%

  • Diesel

    Votes: 6 24.0%

  • E85

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hybrid

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • HEV

    Votes: 3 12.0%

  • BEV

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Total voters
    25
The car I like to look at when I think diesel cars of the future is the BMW 535d. Very good performance and mileage. But if you look back, Mercedes, VW (and I want to say Nissan/Datsun) tried to bring diesel cars to the forefront back in the 80's but that fell through.
Now diesel is becoming a more widespread fuel. It has stood the test of time. Sure it wasn't widespread 20-30 years ago but now it can be found everywhere. Hell I have a diesel lawnmower.
Battery powered vehicles are only shifting the sights off cars. They still require electricity to be produced elsewhere to make them work, and a majority of our electricity comes from pollutant spewing coal/oil burning plants. And don't give me that stuff about people with solar panels or wind turbines on their houses. The amount of money they have to invest to make even half of the energy required to run a regular house is astronomical.
HEV's are out on the market. They are not very widespread at all. I know BMW provided some people with HEV 7 series recently (celebrities mostly). The issue is the infrastructure. The amount of money that it's going to require to make it a widely available source of automotive power is beyond what any company is going to want to spend. That being said, if you begin to sell HEV vehicles in developing countries, they will be able to build the infrastructure to support them. Trying to convert America off of gasoline/diesel is an amazingly high hurdle to jump. Maybe ethanol will help but as a country I don't see us not being dependent on some kind of pumpable fuel.
Fuels that work on existing technology are the way to go.
That's all I have for now. I'm off to play racquetball with my brother. Maybe I'll be back to edit this in a little bit.
 
Kungfutree said:
The car I like to look at when I think diesel cars of the future is the BMW 535d. Very good performance and mileage. But if you look back, Mercedes, VW (and I want to say Nissan/Datsun) tried to bring diesel cars to the forefront back in the 80's but that fell through.
Now diesel is becoming a more widespread fuel. It has stood the test of time. Sure it wasn't widespread 20-30 years ago but now it can be found everywhere. Hell I have a diesel lawnmower.
Battery powered vehicles are only shifting the sights off cars. They still require electricity to be produced elsewhere to make them work, and a majority of our electricity comes from pollutant spewing coal/oil burning plants. And don't give me that stuff about people with solar panels or wind turbines on their houses. The amount of money they have to invest to make even half of the energy required to run a regular house is astronomical.
HEV's are out on the market. They are not very widespread at all. I know BMW provided some people with HEV 7 series recently (celebrities mostly). The issue is the infrastructure. The amount of money that it's going to require to make it a widely available source of automotive power is beyond what any company is going to want to spend. That being said, if you begin to sell HEV vehicles in developing countries, they will be able to build the infrastructure to support them. Trying to convert America off of gasoline/diesel is an amazingly high hurdle to jump. Maybe ethanol will help but as a country I don't see us not being dependent on some kind of pumpable fuel.
Fuels that work on existing technology are the way to go.
That's all I have for now. I'm off to play racquetball with my brother. Maybe I'll be back to edit this in a little bit.
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ya BMW is making a lot of nice diesel cars, same with benz and VW. all german companies.
ford makes a nice diesel focus but only for sale in europe.
honda makes a HEV, it is called the FCX Clarity. the problem right now with HEV is it takes so much energy to make hydrogen for electric power. i think it takes like 1.5X more energy to make hydrogen than it produces. if they could make the process of getting hydrogen more efficient and increase electric motors power, efficiency, size, and price, HEV will be the future fuel for everything. but untill then, it is just a phase.
did you guys know the BEV have been around for long time, back in the 20s and 30s, there was more BEV than ICE vehicles on the road? everytime you charge a battery it loses some of capacity. so if you never use a battery and keep it charged (a battery loses some of its charge over time and you never want a battery to become 100% dead) it will last forever. jay leno has a BEV truck from the 40s with the original battery and it still works.
i think the chevy volts is a step in the right direction for hybrid. it is a series setup and not a parallel like most other ones. in a series hybrid, the gas engine just charges the battery and the electric motor moves the car, usually this is more efficient than parallel setup. parallel, both the ICE and electric motor move the car.
i would love to see a diesel hybrid that is a series set up.

next year i start my senior project and i am trying to think of what i should do. i know i want to make a drivetrain that is very efficient. i am planning on putting the drivetrain onto this go cart/buggy i have. so i am not looking at making a lot of power, i just want to keep the weight down but have around 40-50hp but would like lots of torque.
 
Gas for quads but i mistakenly hit gas when i wanted to hit e85.

check this sh*t out. People all think "green" when they think e85. people setup supras for e85 because of how much they can boost them without race fuel.
 
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ya you can run more boost with E85 than pump, but they would make more power on race gas because race gas has a great power dense than E85.
 
I would say bio-diesel!!!
It does not come from fossil fuels, it can be produced for almost any plant or old oil(recycled oil). But it is a ethical problem to take food(maize,corn,sunflowers to produce a fuel for the rich(not my opinion) the best plant of course is the cannabis we all know!!
 
most bio fuel is used veg oil. i know they were try to find a way to use this seaweed to make fuel. it grows at a rate of a foot a day, so it would be a very good source of fuel if they can make it work.
 
We had a project near has that made bio fuel from alge(hope spelling is right) It is something that is seen as a pest and can be used for good, the same with alien invader plants
 
I remember a few guys using propane in there bronco's, seem to work great but the only draw back i remember was very few places to refeul.
 
ya stephen, that might have been what i was talking about. it was about 3 years ago when i heard this, so it could have been alge.

and slicker, i know they use propane in older diesel and it would increase the power and fuel efficency, like older diesel would only burn around 75% of their fuel, but with the propane "boost" it would burn closer to 100%.
 
The only reason why we still keep on beating the dead dog(gasoline) with a stick is because the oil companies are the biggest money spinners in political campaigns. With out oil money the governments would have long ago started to invest in renewable fuels
 
oh god ya, i heard rumors than back in like the early 90s there was engines and cars built that could get over 75mpg some close to 100mpg. not sure how much truth this is though.
 
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