Picking a porter.

[99LRDblaster]

if u watch him set everything up and know whats going on, then yeah dyno is good, but the dyno can be manipulated by such people, i would rather ride it and feel the performance than put it on a dyno and see the "possible" performance it makes.

The dyno directly measures the performance you are putting down.........no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Outside of varying loads from terrain, it's putting down the same power on the dyno as it is when it's off the dyno. Judging something by how it "feels" might make yourself feel good, but when the reality comes around that it's actually slower, that's another story. People's PERCEIVED notion of power increases is totally different from the reality of what they are actually getting. Great example being the good old "lightened flywheel gave me power" analogy......or putting somebody on a Shee with T5s compared to PCs. T5s might seem faster with their light switch powerband, but the reality of the matter is they aren't.

 

[2smoker85]

whatever floats ur boat dude, u believe what u believe and thats that, dynos can be manipulated, end of story. ill put a KOR 240 against a kennedy 240 on the straights, see who laughs last, or wildcard, or flotek, vitos 240 done by each one, same size carb, same pipe and same reeds, the REALITY is no one has the same applications, so u will never get the same results. everyone has their likes and dislikes.

 

[99LRDblaster]

whatever floats ur boat dude, u believe what u believe and thats that, dynos can be manipulated, end of story. ill put a KOR 240 against a kennedy 240 on the straights, see who laughs last, or wildcard, or flotek, vitos 240 done by each one, same size carb, same pipe and same reeds, the REALITY is no one has the same applications, so u will never get the same results. everyone has their likes and dislikes.

Dynos can be manipulated...................by people. I can go draw a chart for you on MS Paint if you want.

Dynos themselves do not hold a grudge or a bias.

Also, what works in a straight line might not prove to be the most effective on a trail, MX course, etc.

If I went out right now and did some basic casting clean up and a little scrub here and there, I could get more power out of most any 2 stroke. My customers would also say I do "amazing" work because they have no clue what I did and what there is a potential to be. There in lies the problem.

 

[3 Wh33l3r Rid3r]

I've talked to Ken myself and I feel he know is sh*t to. I'm sure I would be very happy with his work but I'm the type that wants to know as much as I can. I'm sure almost all the porters are good but I don't want to be talking out my @ss when I tell someone why I picked this porter and not the others. I'm trying to learn what I can about each porter so I can make my OWN educated decision and have the facts on why I made that decision.

then get to talking to em man, i dont think you are gonna see any numbers anywhere to back up any info anywhere here about which one is better. its just like ken told me " i dont do hp numbers but the ass dyno will read OMG". there work is all great and there prolly isnt gonna be a great power increase between any of em because they all know what it takes to make the power. i mean what else is gonna make you pick this guy over the next guy? you looking for a dyno sheet or something like that is gonna put this guy over the next? you aint gonna find that. why are you so worried about what the next guy thinks anyway? i mean its your ride not theirs. i dont think anybody is gonna question which ever one you go to. if you want to learn about each porter then call each of em and talk to em about what kind of setup you want and one of em is gonna stick out to you and that will make your choice right there. i dont see any facts that you are gonna see thats gonna make the decision for you. if somebody asks you why you chose whoever just say his work speaks for hisself and thats all they need to know.

i say send that thing off to ken and be done with it

 

[Demo4o1]

im gonna have ken port mine prolly next month I:I

 

[super noober]

i picked my guy because of the awesome vids i saw on you tube and on his website. all i know is my machine is amazing, i have yet to ride any other that feels the same.

 

[bagds101]

i picked ken cause there isnt one bad review on him. he was happy to answer all of my questions, had great service, great advice, and i couldnt be happier with the way my blaster performs now. it pulls the wheels up in every gear. not just the first 3 anymore.

 

[darederek]

For mr. Dyno up there i dont see the benefit of a dyno on the quad. I could care less about peak hp and i dont know what rpm i need power at. Unless i buy a tach i wont know that. I mean i know what i consider midrange but i dont know that the midrange is exactly 5500-7500rpm

 

[hudack]

dyno this dyno that thats all you every say about is a dyno
if you dynoed all of there work i would bet if there was one that was better wouldnt be by very much. they all have been doing this for how long.
ken,flotek,wildcard all of them im so sick of the my builders better than yours thing.
i have seen flotek ported bikes go and ken ported bikes go and il just say none of them are short of amazing.
dyno numbers arnt everything dynos are a great tool.
but they arnt everything lrdblaster you want to take the money to buy three cylinders.
pay to use a dyno and see witch one comes out better bet there wouldnt be much of a change between the three if realy any.
i would say one would probley perform better in a differant range and small stuff like that.
wouldnt say there would be any realy change between the three
better yet hit up keenedy im sure he would let you use his dyno now get to work on geting three cylinders and sending them.
until then lets stop with all this mines better and bashing whats with all the hate latley.
all anybody wants to do is dissagree so why dont we all agree to dissagree and stop all this stupid sh*t

 

[slickerthanyou]

While this may be answerable if it was individualized, people's riding preferences and supporting mods contribute a lot of variation. I would also like to see dyno results but I don't jut want to see the biggest HP or torque numbers....I want to see the curves with the most optimal setup.......something nobody has the time and money to effectively do.

Wow! I think this is the best statment you have ever said! I have to agree.

I'd like to Dyno my motor just to see but I can't justify paying for dyno time.

 

[slickerthanyou]

I really like Ken to but if someone asks me why I went with him, I want to be able to say more then just he's a cool guy.

Are you a newb? Use the search button! There are plenty reviews out there.

Then call Ken and talk to him, only he can give you the numbers your looking for. Then call Denny and talk to him, same senerio, he will tell ya what your looking for. Then try a local machine shop....

You have been around long enough to hear all the reviews, and peoples experiences with the different builders, that should be a factor in your decision. Not creating another thread on who is better. You say your not bashing, but you post says otherwise.

And I would be offended if this comment was towards Flotek or Wildcard!

Rediculous!

 

[slickerthanyou]

ive spoken with all three of the best porters on this site. Ken oconner, flotek, and wild card, all have amazing abilities, from what ive got from talking to them ken is the most open and has the best customer service (not saying the others are stuck up just ken out does them a little) as far as whos porting is the best and power wise we will never know unless we line them up for some races or throw them on the dyno

Well put !

 

[blasterdemon7]

i picked my guy because of the awesome vids i saw on you tube and on his website. all i know is my machine is amazing, i have yet to ride any other that feels the same.

I've seen everyone of them.awesome !!!!!

 

[Larry's Shee]

Only in a perfect world. If you had a climate controlled dyno room, each "builder" ported a cylinder to run a specific carb/pipe setup swapped on the same bottom end, you would be hard pressed to see a difference.

Even in the real world if "you" sent a jug to each porter and said "I'm" running "this" set-up for "this" type of riding, I doubt "your" butt dyno would detect a difference.I:I

My opinion would be to look around this forum for feedback on builders , be honest with yourself as to what type of riding you do, what you "can" spend on it call the builders and see who your most cofortable with.

Also with the cost of shipping it may influence your decision. Also consider a local shop. This may take a little more leg work. You will want a shop that has been around a while, ports as a regular part of their business. Willing to show examples of their work, and maybe offer references of satisfied costomers.I:I Plus supporting local shop means it might still be there when you need something, such as oil, plugs, bars, tires.

JMHO, your results may and will vary. I:I

 

[little3mil]

come on guys we all know chevy is better than ford, its a no brainer!!!!!

 

[blasterdemon7]

Thanks for everones input. I know it's giving me a better understanding of what to look at when trying to make a decision. What I was thinking of do is to make a good vid of my normal ridding style. See that I'm not really sure how one port type will differ from another, a porter should be able to watch the vid and say, this is the port type that will best fit your ridding style. In my opinion you can't just say I want a trail port because I ride trails. I've seen people who like to short shift and run in the upper low to mid RPM's in the trails where as I like to wind it out and run in mid to upper RPM's. A trail port is not going to be best for both ridders even know there both ridding trails. I know I do way to much thinking about sh*t.lol.

 

[xKroniK13x]

Ken came up with a custom port layout for me. You can tell him what sort of riding you do and your current mods, and he will base the job on that. Anything from minor ports to aggressive, he does it. I would think the best bet is to call him up and talk it over with him, he seems like a very honest man. I rode slickerthanyou's blaster with an aggressive trail port, and it ripped like crazy. Tons of power. From that, there are tons of other positive feedback of his work on Blaster Forum. So, all in all, I would suggest Ken O'conner. I:I

 

[hudack]

you know your riding style so tell your builder of choice and there ya go

 

[99LRDblaster]

For mr. Dyno up there i dont see the benefit of a dyno on the quad. I could care less about peak hp and i dont know what rpm i need power at. Unless i buy a tach i wont know that. I mean i know what i consider midrange but i dont know that the midrange is exactly 5500-7500rpm

Sounds like a personal problem to me. It doesn't take a lot of thought to figure out where your RPMs are in relation to your thumb throttle. If that was the case, you are pretty hopeless in getting a plug chop at 1/2 throttle since you don't know where it's at.

And yes, peak hp doesn't mean everything........but the curves it puts down when reaching peak numbers does.

 

[99LRDblaster]

Wow! I think this is the best statment you have ever said! I have to agree.

I'd like to Dyno my motor just to see but I can't justify paying for dyno time.

I can justify paying for it and tuning on it for my myself, but not for multiple days testing multiple setups as I don't have the time and $$$ for it. A lot of forums have members contribute funds and they put all this to rest by testing this all out. Quite frankly, outside of a few communities like the Blaster community, every other forum has dyno tests or dyno comparisons to judge what setup works best. You see it with all the 400s/450s, banshees, a lot of 250Rs, and so on.

I would go take mine to go get dynoed this year, but I'm selling it at the end of the year, so I have little to gain by doing so.