Noob needs help!!!

FearTheH

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Im new here, and im an avid kawasaki KX250 rider... I ended buying a 2005 yamaha blaster from a guy for 900 bucks for my girlfriend for christmas, the guy told me that the self mixer had stopped working and he blew the motor. He had it rebuilt and bored 30 over, new reeds, .360 jet and so on. the thing ran fantastic up until yesterday, I took it out to a local motox track and put a few laps on it, it was running great as usual and then lost traction in a very slick, muddy spot on the track and i believe it over revved due to me wearing my steel toe work boots instead of my riding boots and i couldnt feel the shifter. it began knocking very slightly and ended up sputtering very badly and then shut itself off. Piston and rod are definitely still intact, it just wont start at all. its getting spark and fuel. While kicking i can hear what sounds to be air leaking out, and im sure its a head gasket. what i want to know is if a blown head gasket/jug gasket can keep these things from running? I would imagine they could if its pulling air in from outside instead of the carb, preventing fuel from entering the combustion chamber and firing. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!!! TIA!
 
did you premix the gas or is the self mixer still on?
a blown headgasket can keep compression so low it wont start.
do a compression check.
 
Thanks for the prompt response! And yes i did premix, the self mixer is disconnected. I have been running a 32:1 mix ratio that i also use in my KX250. I dont have a compression tester with me, however i can hear it leaking down. I just wanted to gain some opinions before i tear into it...definitely needs to be fixed by next weekend so she can ride at the track with us.
 
do this, take the plug out, put your finger over the hole. have someone kick it over. this is a quick way to see if the pressure is very low. you should have around 110-120psi over above in it.
 
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Okay, heres what I've done so far. I removed the head, checked the head gasket, its good. found 2 loose head studs, tightened them up and then put the head back on. checked spark again to make sure, has good spark but still wont start. Removed the carb to check for any obstructions inside and out, nothing. removed the reed cage to check the reeds for warps or breakage, all good except for one of the reed cage bolts that was snapped off at the block...removed that and replaced it. Still nothing. Crankshaft nut was loose on the stator side, tightened that back up and I'm still not running. Im completely stumped as to what could be keeping this thing from running. Any other suggestions?
 
its slightly wet, but definitely not much. im just wondering what happened, it scared me because it started knocking so i thought i was about to blow a rod but it didnt. I know its definitely getting fuel into the carb, as far as it making it into the cylinder i have no idea.
 
check the flywheel key, bet its sheared if the nut was loose.


you're going to need a flywheel puller for that
 
the flywheel is on the same side as the stator, its what covers it up. There is no diaphragm inside the carb, it is a gravity fed system just like your KX250. If the flywheel key is sheared the motor will still turn over normally, it just will have the timing way out of whack since the flywheel isnt static on the crank shaft causing the motor to spark in the wrong part of the stroke making the engine not run.

One other thing to check would be if there is any scoring on the piston/cylinder. You can just look through the exhaust port to see if there are any signs, if there are you will need to pull apart the top end and see what the damage is. Since the engine was just rebuilt im guessing it went again. As others have said do the compression test, it should read around 120 psi. The other thing as others have said as well is check the key on the flywheel to see if it sheared.
 
you already pointed to 2 airleaks, the head and intake, i bet it fried, and possibly the knockin was the piston skirt breaking ????
i'd pull the head and cylinder

ps. when you pull the head, you must use a brand new gasket
 
you already pointed to 2 airleaks, the head and intake, i bet it fried, and possibly the knockin was the piston skirt breaking ????
i'd pull the head and cylinder

ps. when you pull the head, you must use a brand new gasket

x2 if u have an air leak, it will keep yur enguine from running (too much air not enough fuel in yur enguine) thas why yur enguine was knocking! (yur mixed fuel lubes yur yur parts) if yur gettin too much air n not enough fuel then yur parts are not gettin lubed causing metal to metal friction = rebuilding yur top end + hone or bore job.


when u put it back together make sure you do a leak test (member holeshotman sells them for 30 bucks shipped)
 
ok i will be checking the flywheel first since that'll be the cheapest fix if thats what it is. working on checking the compression as soon as i can get the gauge threaded into the head. Hopefully i wont have to rebuild since it only has about 10 hours on it since last rebuild.
 
you also want to check that the old oil injection system was properly disabled and plugged , otherwise it becomes a air pump , 2 stroke killer . the port on the right side of the carb needs to be plugged ( used silly cone on mine ) and plug the 2 hoses going into the r-side of the case . its ok if the pump is left on inside , cause there is a gasket there that needs to be there , but its best to pull the worm drive gear inside it first , some guys dont but eventually it will disintigrate and although doubtfull , the pieces of gear/plastic could cause damage .