new shocks :D

Feb 28, 2010
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my race tech triple rates finally came back from derisi, went ahead and got a rear MX shock linkage while I was at it lol. derisi redid my fronts the seals and one bladder and serviced um up :) can't wait to go ride, but my bike was bogging to hell, not sure if my dead battery was part of it, but I could also have crappy gas with water in it... we'll find out soon enough tho, was popping like a severe lean condition couldn't get up to full rev at all while riding, will test ride it with the new batt soon and then try the gas if that don't work. I suppose a plugged injector could have similar affects..

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funny, I have so much money tied up into it, yet I really want to ride the 250r when I get it going LOL, but I do really want to test out my recent $700 shock setup on the 450 as well once I get it goin right too lol
 
weeeell, my new battery didn't help the stumbling/poping leaning out feel it has even on acceleration even down hill accel... so it's got issues. read it could be my fuel filter or even header leaking but I'm thinkin fuel filter or injector or other fuel issue. was thinkin maybe my dead battery since I've been jump starting it for at least the last 2 months to start it the batt was so dead.

clogged injector or some other bullsh!t related to the FI basically is what I'm guessing... wanna get rid of this pos and get a sick trx250r again.. something with a carb, hell even another 4 poke so long it's got a carb... damm the FI, what dumbass decided it'd be a good idea, shoulda did turbo's instead friggen azzholes... at least turbo would have more fun factor to it...

the really sad part, is this 250r I pulled outta some dude yard, that leaks at the center case, all crank seals leak and is low on compression, it has PLENTY of issues, but it STILL runs better atm than the friggen 450 that costed me 5x more at this point.. its fricken sorry. when I get it going good I'm gonna beat the sh*t out of it just for acting up! I plan to overshoot and case the biggest jumps I can hit I kinda don't care what breaks so long I'm riding it hard at this point. sell it for recycled scrap after that :D stupid pos LOL> maybe I can get it going and trade it for a street bike or a car I could sell easier... I really hope. it was so muddy last time I didn't even notice if it was running this bad at the time :( I couldn't get up to speed anyway that day so never woulda known :(
 
The stumbling/popping is the dead battery.

Your battery is the voltage sink of the charging system. When the engine is idling it's barely producing any voltage so the battery provides... when you're revving the engine out it's putting out TONS of power so the battery accepts.

Think about this, not only are you trying to run the ignition system off of a weak battery. You're trying to run a fuel injection computer, fuel pump, and a fuel injector on an ignition system which isn't working right. Of crouse it isn't running right!

Put a battery in it and then see if the engine doesn't "relearn" how to run like a scalded dog again.
 
Battery didnt do anything :( I tore into everything, changed the swirl fuel filter, changed plug, fresh gas, clean all my electrical connections on the entire bike, checked pressure between regulator and injector and it was a little high so I cleaned out the injector and regulator as well as fuel pump and filter,tore them all apart, I finally got *some revs but some stumbling too* so I gotta try it tomorrow and see if I got it, I think I unplugged a little stuff from the injector AND regulator I may soak the injector in cleaner later if it runs better. Efi is a huge pita, more so than rebuilding a 2 stoke motor imo including lower end, sh*ts all expensive too, I may need a regulator and pump
 
well, something is fugged, fuel filled the cyl it comes out of my intake and the motor won't really even crank over... gotta check, not too sure what it is at this point, injector, regulator, pump... electrical... I don't see how the pump would stay on, AND the regulator would allow fuel thru AND the injector stays open and dumps it into the engine... doesn't make sense..
 
if its giveing you all those troubles change over the electronics and carb from the 450r dirtbike no more fuel injection to deal with then get a kick start kit and ditch that battery. and in most cases if the bike will idle but hesitates and pops when given throttle ist no lean it is too rich try leaning out the efi and see if that makes an improvement . do you have a full open race exaust, aftermarket air filter,cherry bomb fuel map, programable efi ? these may all afect the dike but first consider changeing the spark plug if you havent allready. nice bike.
 
after changing the battery

changed gas

changed plug

removed filter famous for this problem and put in an inline filter

tested pressure of fuel between regulator and injector

checked/cleaned all electrical connections

disassembled and cleaned out injector, pump and regulator

I came to the carb swap idea a while ago. IF I have to buy anything expensive that is the route I'm going, I've also looked into the kick start kit quite a while ago as well ;)

I ended up getting it revving clean but it was super hard to start, I had to crank it for like 10 minutes and throttle it in intervals, when I just crank it, it spins the motor but nothing happens besides killing the battery, I used a portable jump starter to jump it... been charging my portable all day now LOL charged my batt too after playing with it more, I found a spliced wire up front. I ran into problem after problem you can look on the ltr forum and see all my trials and tribulations LOL. I thought about throwing a match at it when the pump would stay on, regulator let fuel flow and injector would just keep shooting out fuel...

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after I got it started it revved fine...

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I gotta try and clear the codes and figure out the starting issue and it's back on it's feet I think... it stalls out too, so if I can get it to start and not stall LOL think it's electrical at this point. not sure exactly what but resetting/clearing the codes out of the ecu would be a good start, checking them 1st is also a major step... couldn't get the codes to flash tho so after I clean the connection on some splice I found tomorrow I plan to have at it again.

splice is hard to see, but it's a crimp connector connecting one blue wire to a pair of blue wires. not sure what it is but I know it seemed like after playing with it, it started easy once so I'll try again tomorrow.

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I ended up getting a bunch of parts from a guy for cheap, tried the ecm, fuel injector, fuel pump, then ended up changing the wire harness I think it works now but didnt really run it, just started it up and ran it.

Workin on the 250 now, its down to the counter balance gear and crank gear to get to cracking the cases, probably going to put in a better crank, new bearings an seals an new piston n rings and its gonna be ready to rip, well the motor will lol