Jetting, Will the 4mm change it????

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I don"t know???????
Its time for the Break in procedure, but where do i go with the jetting... I now have a + 4mm stroker, will this change my jetting a lot???

I had a CT 240 with a trail port, and a 36mm PWK, main jet 155, pilot jet 55....

I now have CT 240 that is .050 over with a 4mm stroker and a 4mm trail port.. Will this change a lot...
 
hard for us to tell on a 36mm as so few of us run them, but bump it up a few to be safe
remember, you will not be using the main jet for any heat cycles or breakin periods, and one wot plug chop run will not fry that motor, there will be enuf oil laying in the cases to prevent that, unless very very lean, which you wont be

i'd turn that airscrew in to about 1 turn or less to fatten the pilot circut for start up,
then see where it wants that as it's idling for a heat cycle, slightly revving it to check response
needle prolly won't need touched, then after your heat cycles, and a few hours of low/mid throttle riding, i'd do my WOT main jet plug chops
 
really happy to see you gettin this beast back together. haven't you been down since buscco last year?

nope, he wasnt at busco, but was here in october and i think right after is when the problems started ????
did my mountain mistress claim another one ????
 
I honestly think he may have to jet down. I had to jet down from my current setup on my PWK28 after I got my engine KOR ported and head modded.

If you start out with a small carb and you raise the size, you jet down for the size increase usually because the venturi effect increases the more air the carb flows.

If you do a modification to the breathing system to the right of the carb (think airbox/intake) you generally have to jet up. Likewise if you do a modification to the left of the breathing system (think exhaust) you have to jet up, but if you change the way the engine breathes and processes air internally, you may have to jet down, because now the engine will pull more air across the carb jets, therefore getting more fuel through the same size jet.

So, yeah, for starters, Id jet up, then Id see how it feels. Jet by sound and feel. Everyone on here will tell you to do a plug chop, but Ive learned you can try and read a spark plug all day long, but the bottom line is, if youre making power and you arent detonating, thats a better sign that youre jetted properly. If youre rich, it will break up and youll feel it stutter and not go anywhere. If youre lean youll bog and it wont pull like its supposed to on the main.

Another example of how our machines and jetting can be kinda tricky and odd, lets say youre running a 30mm carb. Ill use Keihin as an example since I know Keihins. Lets say on that 30mm carb youre running a 160 main and a 45 pilot. If you move up to a 32mm carb, in theory youd have to drop that main a size to a 155-158 and youd also have to drop to a 42 pilot and maybe even adjust the needle. Bigger hole, lets more air through. More air across the venturi ports means more fuel through a given jet size.
 
the problem with that theory luni is that all those carbs use different jets and different sizes bases on the numbers. A 150 froma 28 wont be the same as a 150 from a 36mm.
 
the problem with that theory luni is that all those carbs use different jets and different sizes bases on the numbers. A 150 froma 28 wont be the same as a 150 from a 36mm.

Youre dead wrong there.

If youre speaking in Keihin terms, and on the same line of carbs, say PWK, even PJ for that matter, their jets are all the same. When you go to jetsrus.com and order a Keihin hex 160 main, they dont ask you if its for a PWK 28 or a PWK 36. You match jets based on the line of carbs they fit. The number sequence applies to the entire line.

Ive personally owned a PWK 28, a PWK 36, and Ive jetted a PJ34 and I used the jets out of my personal jet bag, which I bought for my PWK.

Different lines of carbs MAY use different jets. For Mikunis Im not really sure, but carb manufacturers rate their jet flow based on a scale and that scale doesnt change. A Mikuni 300 main jet is a 300 main jet. Doesnt matter if its in a CR250, a Banshee, a Blaster, get what Im saying?
 
I fired it up and it started on the 2nd kick, but it did not want to idle with out me bumping the throttle. So i assumed that my pilot jet was to rich because the carb was jetted for a motor with one hell of a air leak. It started out with a 55 pilot jet and then i went to a 52 and a 50 and then with a 48 it started it idle but the air screw was at 4 turns out, and now i have a 45 pilot jet in with the air screw at 1 1/2 turns out and it idles but the idle screw that moves the slide up and down is screwed in almost all the way , so i think i have to get a 42 and 40 jet to try...
 
Ive found the ticket on these carbs with an adjustable slide is to get it to idle with the slide, and then use the pilot screw to adjust where the bike idles the highest.

So, if you get your highest idle at 1.5-2 turns out, in theory thats where it should be, but in practice, you will now need to ride it and see how it transitions from the pilot circuit onto the jet needle circuit.

Try that before you buy jets, you may not need to.