yeah, i will ask my incle about the track tommorow, he lives rght near it and races go karts there, i have been there, its a nice track, looks kinda half asphalt and then covered in dirt, there might be a separate track for the quads, i'll se what money i have after christmas for some flat trackerz, also, i nevr knew abput racing at porter county, hey dakota demon, how much would you be willin to sell those for, and if possible the rims too?