ok so rite now i can get 2 really good deals 4 the same price at a local shop they have a dyno port big volume and a shearer. i have heard these r very gr8 pipes i have a new 240bb and a mild port job with a head shaved .15 im lookin 4 a mid 2 topend pipe and dnt wana buy the wrong thing and disolike it cause im on a budget