makeing pipes??

[03blasteryfs03]

well every 1 iv done some research on pipes and looking at shapes and every brands desings and well for a welding project at my high school metal works class and im gona make a a pipe like a lrdish kinda shape and size and just expirament iv made a kinda dg style pipe befor and it took alot of time but im gona try this and will post resaust that im gona do on my 240 ported f7 full system

 

[03blasteryfs03]

someone with a lrd or dyno port can u take some measurements

 

[gonzo]

do not waste your time, if you want to weld up a pipe fine but do not expect it to work, I am not trying to discourage you but as a guy that raced TZ250's using 20 different shapes made quite a diff, it is a science, call Matt Shearer out in Ca. and ask him for some advise and only take up 3 minutes of his time he will probably tell you 3 degree taper on the head pipe first diffuser is usually this taper and this kength and so on, good luck I hope you have alot of acetylene and oxygen because its time consuming and you'll need your bike there

 

[Blasterdude27]

Pick up a A Graham Bell's 2 stroke tuning book and read read read.... better be good at math too!!

 

[97BoredOutBlasta]

ya, its a little more complicated than just trying to copy a F7s shape... it truly is a science

 

[Blaster200boy]

You a pay a price for a nice pipe because its very time consuming. one weird measurement can screw it all up! Good luck though!

 

[rocky318]

hey when i first started building enclosures every body told me how hard it was and how it wouldnt work right, i said f-it and went head first into it made mistakes and learned alot. long story short the first one i made did 145@40HZ with two 12s and 1200watts@2ohms with stock electrical in the trunk of a grand marquis.

i know this is not like pipe making but its kinda the same concept when it comes to precision. just go for it make mistakes and get better and do homework

 

[MXsandracer]

here's a pic of my old pipe.. i can't ID it, so nearest i can tell somebody had the same idea you have..

 

[stephen12091985]

thats how everyone learns.you gotta start somewhere.well i hope you do it and make it work

 

[gonzo]

go the hydro-formed way it is much easier, or go to 2 stroke pipe designs they will give you everything you need, I could build one but why, if your labor is worth 2.50 per hour go ahead, if this is not something you wish to make a living at I wouldn't bother, its not like its impossible it is not very feasible, and most professional pipe builders will tell you they can't make a good living either.

 

[03blasteryfs03]

im doping it for a project that i get the materails for free so y not just try it and im not caring for performance just to say i built 1

 

[rocky318]

do it you may be surprised at what happens

 

[97BoredOutBlasta]

do not waste your time, if you want to weld up a pipe fine but do not expect it to work, I am not trying to discourage you but as a guy that raced TZ250's using 20 different shapes made quite a diff, it is a science, call Matt Shearer out in Ca. and ask him for some advise and only take up 3 minutes of his time he will probably tell you 3 degree taper on the head pipe first diffuser is usually this taper and this kength and so on, good luck I hope you have alot of acetylene and oxygen because its time consuming and you'll need your bike there

if i were to build a pipe, OXY/Acetylene welding would be the last welding method i would use.... do you really think anyone uses O/A welding for precision??? TIG, or wire feed would be what you'd use. let the guy try to build a pipe... i dont think anyone would expect to have a well performing pipe their first try. thats how you progress your fabrication skills. trial and error, practice, trying different bends and beads, and temps and fillers and rods... dive in and get dirty, use what ever resources you can, and i garantee you will learn some things about fabrication and pipe building.

 

[samolia]

if i were to build a pipe, OXY/Acetylene welding would be the last welding method i would use.... do you really think anyone uses O/A welding for precision??? TIG, or wire feed would be what you'd use.QUOTE]

tig is pretty much the same as O/A welding the only difference is instead of a torch you use the tig electrod.
and if your good O/A can be pretty precise that is if you know what your doing.
ive made boxes out of sheet metal before with just a torch using fusion.
welding is an artform not everyone has the talent

 

[samolia]

im doping it for a project that i get the materails for free so y not just try it and im not caring for performance just to say i built 1

if i was you i would build an out of frame pipe they look like they would be the easiest to make. only like 2 bends instead of like 4 or more

 

[97BoredOutBlasta]

if i were to build a pipe, OXY/Acetylene welding would be the last welding method i would use.... do you really think anyone uses O/A welding for precision??? TIG, or wire feed would be what you'd use.QUOTE]

tig is pretty much the same as O/A welding the only difference is instead of a torch you use the tig electrod.
and if your good O/A can be pretty precise that is if you know what your doing.
ive made boxes out of sheet metal before with just a torch using fusion.
welding is an artform not everyone has the talent

ummmm, O/A welding is absolutely nothing like TIG. for one, O/A welding uses an ignited gas stream to use open flame to heat the workpiece and melt a filler rod into your bead... TIG uses direct or alternating electrical current that flows from your machine, through your ground clamp, through your workpiece, and into a Tungsten electrode on your TIG torch. you then place a filler rod in that current to create a desired bead... the two are NOTHING alike, and yes, O/A can be used for presicion, but with the thickness of pipe material, you wouldnt use OA because your workpiece would get much too hot, and warp, but with tig, you can use a pulser, which spaces out the current so one section doesnt get too hot, it tones down the current to compensate for residual heat from the last section.... no pipe builders would ever use Oxyacetalene welding for pipes...

 

[03blasteryfs03]

ya im a tig welder and mig i hate useing o/a torch welding and im jusat doing it for a grade so i dont care what the big deal is that every seems to give me incept for like 2 or 3 people haha maybe they will get discounts