Leaded or unleaded fuel for blaster?
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leaded fuel? dude, this isn't the 60's anymore, get with the program.
but i have ran both pump (unleaded) and turbo blue (leaded) in my quads without switching anything.
but i have ran both pump (unleaded) and turbo blue (leaded) in my quads without switching anything.
since you have no actual valves, leaded wont make a diffrence. it was originally designed and used to increase the operating range of cheap low quality gasoline. most leaded fuels are actually really super low octane and the lead keeps the gas from detonating prior to the spark. just like octane in todays gasoline, only much cheaper, and dangerous to the enviroment.
this of course, is not in the same class as leaded race gas which contains lead to soften the impact of the valves on the valve seats and requires a rebuild cycle to eliminate lead deposits n the valves.
this of course, is not in the same class as leaded race gas which contains lead to soften the impact of the valves on the valve seats and requires a rebuild cycle to eliminate lead deposits n the valves.
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The mixture known as gasoline, when used in high compression internal combustion engines, has a tendency to autoignite (detonation) causing a damaging "engine knocking" (also called "pinging") noise. Early research into this effect was led by A.H. Gibson and Harry Ricardo in England and Thomas Midgley and Thomas Boyd in the United States. The discovery that lead additives modified this behavior led to the widespread adoption of the practice in the 1920s and therefore more powerful higher compression engines. The most popular additive was tetra-ethyl lead. However, with the discovery of the environmental and health damage caused by the lead, and the incompatibility of lead with catalytic converters found on virtually all newly sold US automobiles since 1975, this practice began to wane (encouraged by many governments introducing differential tax rates) in the 1980s. Most countries are phasing out leaded fuel; different additives have replaced the lead compounds. The most popular additives include aromatic hydrocarbons, ethers and alcohol (usually ethanol or methanol).
In the US, where lead had been blended with gasoline (primarily to boost octane levels) since the early 1920s, standards to phase out leaded gasoline were first implemented in 1973 - due in great part to studies conducted by Philip J. Landrigan. In 1995, leaded fuel accounted for only 0.6% of total gasoline sales and less than 2,000 short tons of lead per year. From January 1, 1996, the Clean Air Act banned the sale of leaded fuel for use in on-road vehicles. Possession and use of leaded gasoline in a regular on-road vehicle now carries a maximum $10,000 fine in the US. However, fuel containing lead may continue to be sold for off-road uses, including aircraft, racing cars, farm equipment, and marine engines.[17] The ban on leaded gasoline led to thousands of tons of lead not being released in the air by automobiles. Similar bans in other countries have resulted in lowering levels of lead in people's bloodstreams.[18][19]
A side effect of the lead additives was protection of the valve seats from erosion. Many classic cars' engines have needed modification to use lead-free fuels since leaded fuels became unavailable. However, "Lead substitute" products are also produced and can sometimes be found at auto parts stores. These were scientifically tested and some were approved by the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs at the UK's Motor Industry Research Association (MIRA) in 1999. Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs
Gasoline, as delivered at the pump, also contains additives to reduce internal engine carbon buildups, improve combustion, and to allow easier starting in cold climates.
In some parts of South America, Asia, Eastern Europe and the Middle East, leaded gasoline is still in use. Leaded gasoline was phased out in sub-Saharan Africa effective 1 January 2006. A growing number of countries have drawn up plans to ban leaded gasoline in the near future.
The mixture known as gasoline, when used in high compression internal combustion engines, has a tendency to autoignite (detonation) causing a damaging "engine knocking" (also called "pinging") noise. Early research into this effect was led by A.H. Gibson and Harry Ricardo in England and Thomas Midgley and Thomas Boyd in the United States. The discovery that lead additives modified this behavior led to the widespread adoption of the practice in the 1920s and therefore more powerful higher compression engines. The most popular additive was tetra-ethyl lead. However, with the discovery of the environmental and health damage caused by the lead, and the incompatibility of lead with catalytic converters found on virtually all newly sold US automobiles since 1975, this practice began to wane (encouraged by many governments introducing differential tax rates) in the 1980s. Most countries are phasing out leaded fuel; different additives have replaced the lead compounds. The most popular additives include aromatic hydrocarbons, ethers and alcohol (usually ethanol or methanol).
In the US, where lead had been blended with gasoline (primarily to boost octane levels) since the early 1920s, standards to phase out leaded gasoline were first implemented in 1973 - due in great part to studies conducted by Philip J. Landrigan. In 1995, leaded fuel accounted for only 0.6% of total gasoline sales and less than 2,000 short tons of lead per year. From January 1, 1996, the Clean Air Act banned the sale of leaded fuel for use in on-road vehicles. Possession and use of leaded gasoline in a regular on-road vehicle now carries a maximum $10,000 fine in the US. However, fuel containing lead may continue to be sold for off-road uses, including aircraft, racing cars, farm equipment, and marine engines.[17] The ban on leaded gasoline led to thousands of tons of lead not being released in the air by automobiles. Similar bans in other countries have resulted in lowering levels of lead in people's bloodstreams.[18][19]
A side effect of the lead additives was protection of the valve seats from erosion. Many classic cars' engines have needed modification to use lead-free fuels since leaded fuels became unavailable. However, "Lead substitute" products are also produced and can sometimes be found at auto parts stores. These were scientifically tested and some were approved by the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs at the UK's Motor Industry Research Association (MIRA) in 1999. Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs
Gasoline, as delivered at the pump, also contains additives to reduce internal engine carbon buildups, improve combustion, and to allow easier starting in cold climates.
In some parts of South America, Asia, Eastern Europe and the Middle East, leaded gasoline is still in use. Leaded gasoline was phased out in sub-Saharan Africa effective 1 January 2006. A growing number of countries have drawn up plans to ban leaded gasoline in the near future.
on e85, they say it is 100 octane rating, and runs cleaner. there is down sides like it doesn't make the same power as gas . but think about it, if they made new 2-stroke quads that ran on e85, they should make the same power as gas, but with high compression, and they should run a lot cleaner. but i think the e85 would f*ck up the carbs and reeds.
no, actually, ethanol makes more power than gasoline, but it burns much more rapidly, it actually uses 33% more. calling for a much bigger carbuerator. if you were going to try it you would need to use steel fuel lines so the alcohol didnt eat your lines and take some rubber into the float bowl which it would have a tendancy to do. oh, and one thing people dont understand is that unless it is over 33% cheaper than gas, you are actually paying more because you will be using more
people i have talked to did not see it fit as a good fuel, mainly because it likes to run WOT instead of on and off many go-kart racers use something like it known as alcohol and have been using it since before it was heard of by most people. some funnycars use it too i believe. i remember seeing a modern marvels on it where they were saying it was the exact same thing as moonshine except moonshine contains sugar. of course, e85 contains 15% gasoline, so you wont drink it, and i think theres some other reason, im not sure
lol my friend asked me about leaded gas today he was worried about hurting his engine by running reg gas in his sled (1986 skidoo 377) asked him what grade he was running he said regular i told him to just run premium and he will be fine..
my other friend thinks that older motors need leaded fuel because the valves are softer i told him he was full of sh*t lol...
my other friend thinks that older motors need leaded fuel because the valves are softer i told him he was full of sh*t lol...
