New here, Dealing with an all stock 200cc, just got it, not sure if the piston is new, but compression seems high (have no official pressure gauge yet). Kicks back almost every kick but will push start and run so, so at idle and raps out pretty good like a power band on the high end once its warmed up well. (probably needs jets cleaned in carb still). Ok so took kicker all apart, all there, spring is good, gears are good. swapped kicker set up with 2 others, same result. Ohmed the coils as spec in the book. Little out of tolerance but no short or open. read much about "timing may be too far advanced", so I took off the flywheel (which shines like brand new inside and out) and filed the bolt holes in the stock stator plate to retard the coil about 3-5 degrees (as mentioned on another thread here). helped a little, but STILL kicks back 60% of the time and now lacks power terribly. planing on doing a small timing advance once I get the kick back figured out. the guy before me busted a couple right case covers dealing with this, I've nearly bruised my foot. lol. could it be the CDI? is there anything else that I can troubleshoot? any help appreciated.
kicker kick back problems
- Thread starter calholli
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the blaster timing is not even on from the factory advance it 4 and it will be good as far as kick back idk
If you just got it, I would bet it's not "all stock". The first thing to do is get a compression gauge on there. The way you are describing it, it sounds like the jug has been cut down or the head has been cut pretty good. I wouldn't run it till you know because if you have 200+ compression, the pump fuel will kill that thing.
I understand, and you may be right... I actually bought 3 blasters from this guy, 2 whole, one in pieces.. (for $800.00 believe it or not. YeaHH). He sold them to a kid who had them in a "vo-tech class" where the students could work on them. Kid failed to finish making payments, so the guy got them back and I found the (st)deal on ebay. anyway, to the point, He also had a Alcohol blaster listed on ebay... so, this very well may be a high compression jug. Like I said, the magnets are brand new also. I will get a gauge and try to swap a good cdi also, even a stator plate since this one ohms a little off anyway. any other suggestions are surely welcome.
one of the other quads had brand new dual reeds, piston, rings, shinny jets in the carb, after market muffler, custom rear skid plate, and absolutely everything is there and works. but it wouldn't run worth a duck. started it at night, and less than a min, the exhaust from motor to the expansion chamber and also muffler would immediately get bright, cherry red hot and even spit sparks out the pipe... checked it, checked it... someone put the charge and pulser coils backwards... yellow/red and white/red. I switched the bullet plugs under the seat back color to color as they should be and if fired up and is running like a champ!! got my 800.00 right there. lol. now if I can just get this kicker fixed. haven't been so lucky with this one.
Ha!... got it figured out.. don't even know how it was running as good as it was.. after trying several kicker set ups with no luck.. I went ahead and advanced the timing 3-4 degrees on the stator to kill time... kicked several times, still the same kick back... went ahead and started trouble shooting the cdi connections and found that they had the ground on the cdi hooked to the lighting coil from the stator??? .. along with several other electrical errors.. no lights of coarse, no kill switches. lol. fixed all that, and the first time I kicked it.... . .. . kicker wouldn't engage at all... I found out the little gear behind the clutch, that the kicker system engages, was broken from all the kick back against my foot.... . aahahhhhhh... so I had to remove clutch, luckily had a extra motor to swap with, put it all back together. . No back kick, starts first kick every time. and it wound up being the fastest blaster I have now. So the advanced timing really helps alot!! planning on doing it to the others. cool stuff.
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