extended a arms
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500 bucks for +3's, heres the site, u can also get long travel for a lil more cash
American Star, The Official Manufacturers Website!
American Star, The Official Manufacturers Website!
look on ebay. i think you can get new asr +3+1's for in the $400-500 range. they make the quad handle a ton better and ride better plus look cooler. definately worth it
400-500 gets you a nice pair, but like speed........ Good handling costs money, how good do you want?
Theres much more to the equation then just longer a-arms...
Theres much more to the equation then just longer a-arms...
There are some available in the for sale section here.
Usually when someone is talking a-arms, it's +3 or whatever per side, whereas for a rear axle +2 means +2 total width.
Usually when someone is talking a-arms, it's +3 or whatever per side, whereas for a rear axle +2 means +2 total width.
someone has +5+1 a arms on here for sale for like $500. it looks like a good deal if you ask me. but you wouldnt be able to use stock shocks on something like that, so your looking at spending alot more to buy shocks so yeah it just depends on how much you want to spend
OK a-arm 101...
extended a-arms can do many things,
1. widen the bike, wider can be more stable
2. provide servicable ball joints as the stock ones cannot be replaced
3. can increase wheel travel, how much depends on the quality/design of the a-arms. A ball joint only has so much articulation or angle that it can move., a longer arm provides more travel for the same ball joint angle. Also if they are well designed, the angle that the balljoint mount to the a-arms will be maximized to provide even more tavel, while the shock mount will be slightly relocated to utilized the available travel
4. +2,+3 etc. is how much wider the arm is than stock
5. The second number +0, +1 etc indicates how much further foreward then stock the ball joints are located. Yes this increases the wheelbase, but more importantly it changes the weight bias/ centeral mass axis. picture a teeter totter ___.___ the dot is the axis. when you lenghten the swingarm to stop the front end from comming up, that moves the mass foreward making it harder to lift the front end by placing more weight on the front tires. When you go +1 it moves the mass rearward lightening the front wheels.
6. allows the camber to be adjusted (tilting the tire) this can allow better handeling.. by tilting the tire a little , when you are turning really hard, it will give the tire a better angle to the ground as the bike leans
7. Some a-arms have adjustable caster. this is a front to back differance between the upper and lower balljoint. adjusted one way, the bike will turn better but will not be as stable in a straight line, adjusted the other, the bike will be more stable, especially at higher speeds, but will not turn as easily.
extended a-arms can do many things,
1. widen the bike, wider can be more stable
2. provide servicable ball joints as the stock ones cannot be replaced
3. can increase wheel travel, how much depends on the quality/design of the a-arms. A ball joint only has so much articulation or angle that it can move., a longer arm provides more travel for the same ball joint angle. Also if they are well designed, the angle that the balljoint mount to the a-arms will be maximized to provide even more tavel, while the shock mount will be slightly relocated to utilized the available travel
4. +2,+3 etc. is how much wider the arm is than stock
5. The second number +0, +1 etc indicates how much further foreward then stock the ball joints are located. Yes this increases the wheelbase, but more importantly it changes the weight bias/ centeral mass axis. picture a teeter totter ___.___ the dot is the axis. when you lenghten the swingarm to stop the front end from comming up, that moves the mass foreward making it harder to lift the front end by placing more weight on the front tires. When you go +1 it moves the mass rearward lightening the front wheels.
6. allows the camber to be adjusted (tilting the tire) this can allow better handeling.. by tilting the tire a little , when you are turning really hard, it will give the tire a better angle to the ground as the bike leans
7. Some a-arms have adjustable caster. this is a front to back differance between the upper and lower balljoint. adjusted one way, the bike will turn better but will not be as stable in a straight line, adjusted the other, the bike will be more stable, especially at higher speeds, but will not turn as easily.
Just like the textbook, Phragle.....Hey that sounds like a good idea. Why don't you write a book on quad racing and quad building/setup? I know I'd buy it and I haven't seen one yet.
