clutch help

[soon2b]

okay got the adjustment points to line up, but still got no clutch. I noticed the clutch basket as a whole has about 1/4 of a inch of play on it meaning i can pull the basket back and forth with about 1/4 of slop. Also with all the disc in and tight and the pressure plate on and everything adjusted. When you pull on the clutch lever on the case it will push the clutch plates out, but they will not go back is that normal. Thanks

 

[Awk08]

okay got the adjustment points to line up, but still got no clutch. I noticed the clutch basket as a whole has about 1/4 of a inch of play on it meaning i can pull the basket back and forth with about 1/4 of slop. Also with all the disc in and tight and the pressure plate on and everything adjusted. When you pull on the clutch lever on the case it will push the clutch plates out, but they will not go back is that normal. Thanks

that is not normal, possible causes are....

ball bearing missing from between the 2 internal rods,
or...ball welded to end of clutch side rod.
(see ball bearing actually self welded to the rod)

dots of pressure plate and clutch basket not aligned.

serious grooving of clutch basket or inner hub...
(these can be inside the fingers of the outer clutch basket also)

and i gotta ask...
are there 7 plates and 6 steels in the clutch pack ?
you do have the pressure plate springs on ?

 

[Racer51]

yuuuuup, if ball is missing or welded to the end of the rod, it will not push the pressure plate.

sometimes they mushroom if your ever taken apart a banshee...it dident mushroom did it?

have you tried allowing the engine to warm up and trying the clutch disengagement again ?
sometimes after sitting the plates like to "stick" together, causing symptoms similar to what your explaining, fully warmed up then working the clutch a few times usually frees them up.

but it does sound like your placing the BB in there proves your ball bearing was missing originally ?

BTW...the BB will not last long, you need to find the correct ball bearing before running it. then readjust the rod for the new ball

true they stick together after sitting.
I had a KX125 with a grooved up clutch had to dump the clutch at high revs to even get it to take.

 

[soon2b]

Tried to use air to blow the rod out of the case and still couldnt get it out. When i took the clutch actuator off i could look down and verify that the rod was in there. I took a screwdrive down the hole and slide the shaft towards the clutch side of the bike. I then put the actuator back in and decided to try to adjust the clutch and see what i got again. This time the actuator has much more tension on it. It was much harder to pull forward so i could adjust it. I dont know what that means though. After looking at your pictures the bike suffer from none of those minus i cant get the rod out. So I guess im going to split the case. thanks for everyones help.