TOP END HEAD BOLTS help

[fruehjames]

I took off the top end of my motor today to clean up around the area before retightening the head bolts. Would this have broken the seal with the head gasket or is there no seal present? Any help would be appreciated

 

[Awk08]

just a copper gasket, and they are 1 time use, you now need a new one, ebay for $10+ shipping, or the dealers for around $14

 

[brandoz28]

another trick is to aneal it.

heat the ring of the gasket till it kind of changes colors, then dip it in cold water, it should pop back to life.

 

[fruehjames]

So did i break the seal by removing the top end?

 

[yb200]

just do yourself and favor and a headach in the future and get a new head gasket

 

[fruehjames]

I already have the new gasket set after some help from awk and other members. I had a slight oily mixture residue coming from the head gasket area. I just bought the blaster about 3 weeks ago and it recently had the top end rebuilt. After further investigation I figured the head bolts needed to be retighted and while I was in there I decided to remove the head to clean the cooling fins of the oily residue. The gasket that was already there seems to be new and in good condition should I still put the new one in or would the old one be fine? Thanks so much

 

[Awk08]

you didn't break it, but without a new one, or that "i've never heard of" but good one, aneal it trick it wont seal again,
theres a ring that stands out, and once used it crushes to seal,
just get a new one

 

[yb200]

use a new one !

 

[fruehjames]

Thanks for the help guys im gonna throw the new one on tomorrow. Anything I need to do to get it to seal properly or just put it in place and retighten the head bolts? Also after the new gasket is in should I do a break in procedure or can I just hop on and ride like normal?

 

[fruehjames]

awk08 and yb200 you guys have been aton of help with all my questions I have had with my blaster how do I throw u guys some rep points?

 

[Awk08]

do a heat cycle or 2, and then let it cool, and retighten them, and mine didnt last with the 20 or so ft. pounds it calls for,
blew out the first ride
just tighten them evenly in a star pattern, and repeat after cool down

 

[brandoz28]

if its totally fresh, don't forget to check the base nuts too

 

[fruehjames]

awk what ft pound torque do you recommend? Also where are the base nuts located thanks again guys.

 

[brandoz28]

they're the nuts that hole the jug to the bottom end, they're the 4 on the corners at the bottom of the jug

 

[fruehjames]

Sorry for my ignorance but are they under the motor or facing up once the top end is removed?

 

[brandoz28]

they're the ones that go on the studs that the top end slides onto

 

[Awk08]

i didnt do a ft lbs this time, i just went hand tight, then a 1/4 turn at a time, in the star pattern, till they all got fairly tight,
then gave them all one last good firm crank, they arent coming loose again, and there are 4 base bolts, one holds your clutch bracket on, the other ones are on the corners in the same location, just crank them firmly and evenly, not extremly,
after cool down