LOL I tried to trail ride and woods ride a 500 and it was a pain in the rear LMAOI'm just not a big 4 joke guy. I do love the atc's,and the cr's tho. Miss my old cr500 I had years ago. Although they are literally to much power for trails, but one BA bike. I plan to get my youngest a older cr80 this year coming. I rode mine everywhere when I was a kid and it was old trusty.