Nnice debate

I use to own a banshee. If you are talking stock machines, most of the time it will come down to the riders. My banshee would over run the zilla in the top end on a long straight away. Both are awesome machines.
 
I use to own a banshee. If you are talking stock machines, most of the time it will come down to the riders. My banshee would over run the zilla in the top end on a long straight away. Both are awesome machines.

you are a complete f*cking moron.

stock, the quadzilla is the fastest machine made. top speed of 79-81. back when it came out, one of the magazines was able to hit upper 90s with jus a gearing change on the zilla.


with slight bolt on mods (pipe, filter, carb) the zilla is still faster. but once you get into other things (BBK, porting, stroking) a banshee has so much more to give.

so untill you know what you are talking about, shut the f*ck up
 
Doesn't matter what engine size or the number of cylinders you have...You could be running a 1000cc street-bike engine in your quad and still get beaten by something else. Top speed is determined by the final drive gear ratio on the machine, and of course by how high your engine can rev and still make usable power with said gear ratio. Assuming that two quads go to race and are geared the same, the quad which can rev higher and still put out HP will win. In theory, at least. (This doesn't take into account drag coefficient, rider skill, and other real-world factors).

Example: A 1000cc street bike engine'd quad would outrun a Banshee on the top end, even if both quads were geared the same, because many of your little inline 4' bangers keep making power even past 12K RPM's. Unless you've got a Banshee with some wild motor work and porting, you're pretty much done with power output on a 'shee by the time it hits 10-11K. As far as I know, that is. The 1000cc quad wins this drag race, at least on paper.

I'd say in real life, it all boils down to the gear ratos used on the two quads racing each other, type of racing (drag vs cross country vs MX, etc), the respective power outputs of the two engines, and who is the better rider when racing a 'Zilla vs a 'Shee. Both quads are beasts; I've never owned a Zilla so I can't fairly compare the two. Pretty sure a Zilla has a Banshee beat on HP, even after adding all the common bolt-ons to the 'shee.
 
also stock
the 87 zilla was rated at 51hp, the 88-90 was upper 40s (think it was 48)
a banshee is rated and 33-35hp.
the zilla did hold the highest hp/lb. not sure if it still holds that record for quads.
 
LOL yea, a stock Zilla is without a doubt faster than a stock Banshee. Banshees are typically easier to mod and respond better to mods simply because they are so bottled up and the aftermarket for Banshees is ENORMOUS where the aftermarket is pretty weak for a Zilla. Dr. Q works around that and makes some pretty awesome Zillas though, but a lot of times they are always for dragging which is just pointless to me, because with enough time and effort you can make just about anything fast in a straight line to and extent.

As a side note, displacement doesn't mean jack sh*t. Just because a Zilla is a 500 and the Banshee is a 350 doesn't automatically mean a Banshee will lose(even if it does stock in this case). This is like saying one of the guy's trucks on here with an 8.4L engine could beat a 4.7L Ferrari. They have nothing to do with each other. Is displacement important?......sure.......but it's probably on the bottom end on the level of importance when it comes to port timing, head design, port design, intake design, exhaust setup, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
 
Doesn't matter what engine size or the number of cylinders you have...You could be running a 1000cc street-bike engine in your quad and still get beaten by something else. Top speed is determined by the final drive gear ratio on the machine, and of course by how high your engine can rev and still make usable power with said gear ratio. Assuming that two quads go to race and are geared the same, the quad which can rev higher and still put out HP will win. In theory, at least. (This doesn't take into account drag coefficient, rider skill, and other real-world factors).

Example: A 1000cc street bike engine'd quad would outrun a Banshee on the top end, even if both quads were geared the same, because many of your little inline 4' bangers keep making power even past 12K RPM's. Unless you've got a Banshee with some wild motor work and porting, you're pretty much done with power output on a 'shee by the time it hits 10-11K. As far as I know, that is. The 1000cc quad wins this drag race, at least on paper.

I'd say in real life, it all boils down to the gear ratos used on the two quads racing each other, type of racing (drag vs cross country vs MX, etc), the respective power outputs of the two engines, and who is the better rider when racing a 'Zilla vs a 'Shee. Both quads are beasts; I've never owned a Zilla so I can't fairly compare the two. Pretty sure a Zilla has a Banshee beat on HP, even after adding all the common bolt-ons to the 'shee.

You are right on most of it. It doesn't take a whole lot for a Banshee to beat a stock Zilla though. Add some pipes and few other minuscule things and the Banshee will beat it through the gears and make a sprocket change and it will probably have it on top end. Banshee's are so plugged up from the factory that slapping pipes on them is an enormous night and day difference and Banshee's probably respond with the highest % of power gain from a simple pipe change of any quad I've seen.
 
You are right on most of it. It doesn't take a whole lot for a Banshee to beat a stock Zilla though. Add some pipes and few other minuscule things and the Banshee will beat it through the gears and make a sprocket change and it will probably have it on top end. Banshee's are so plugged up from the factory that slapping pipes on them is an enormous night and day difference and Banshee's probably respond with the highest % of power gain from a simple pipe change of any quad I've seen.

a 404 fmf piped banshee with some other little mods was even to a DG piped zilla (a sh*tty pipe). on top end, the zilla still would pull away.
 
zilla is called te quadzilla for a reason... highest hp stock machine in the 2 stroke world, fastest but it was heavy! but stock for stock side by side drag race with 2 equal riders the zilla wins every time


for argument sake...

stick dana creech on a stock banshee and drag it, than stick him on a stock zilla... guess what?? the zilla will be faster
 
ok here is a question, who here has actually owned both quads? for more than a couple months? owned both at the same time?


ya didn't think so, so shut the f*ck up.
 
is a lt250r the same as a zilla, no. not even close. i think the only thing the swaps is hubs and tires from certain years. zilla>lt250r /thread