my blaster doesnt start help!!

/\ /\ x2 flatten the surfaces and use new gaskets and tension the nuts as per specs, if you do not know how, ask and info will be forthcoming.
the gasket is not the problem ,i resolved the problem ,look ,in the rectify workshop they hurt all of the thread of the head studs ,so i buy others studs and now it is fixed but the problem is still here:mad:
the last way is the timming ,how i can check it??

note:all the head nuts are on 20 lb
 
YES!! the problem is the timming ,yesterday i went with a mechanical to look the stator and he said when a piston is changed the dimmensions are diferent and the spark is turned on after or before,the previous piston was a 66.75mm namura and the new piston is 67.00mm wiseco , can you tell me what means the marks on the stator cap ??
 
Wrongo, tdc is tdc no matter what size the piston is, if the stroke stays the same the piston reaches tdc at same time no matter if bore size is 10mm or 100mm
 
took a pic just for you ..it is very hard to see cuz it is such a small measurement. but you get the idea.

.25MM WHERE ORANGE ARROWS ARE LOL :)

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if the timing is off, tdc happens yes, but it will not fire at the right time
Your not picking up on what the op said, he said the timing is off because he increased the size of piston an bore, thats what his mechanic told him, i dont give a sh*t what the bore size is in the engine, the piston still travels the same speed, there for putting the piston at tdc at same time no matter the bore size, hence bore size has no affect on ignition timing. Unless you change the compression height of the piston, but the blaster engine had one compression height no matter the brand or bore size, hence why we need spacer plates for our stroker engines, or major head mods.
 
Your not picking up on what the op said, he said the timing is off because he increased the size of piston an bore, thats what his mechanic told him, i dont give a sh*t what the bore size is in the engine, the piston still travels the same speed, there for putting the piston at tdc at same time no matter the bore size, hence bore size has no affect on ignition timing. Unless you change the compression height of the piston, but the blaster engine had one compression height no matter the brand or bore size, hence why we need spacer plates for our stroker engines, or major head mods.

Actually, bore size does affect timing requirements, albeit not very much. The advance in timing is there to allow peak pressure to build in enough time to have as much of an effect on the power stroke as possible by allowing the mixture that little bit of extra time to burn. That's why higher compression domes (which also have better designs that promote burn) require less advance to make the most of their design.

To make it simple, the more volume that the flame has to encompass, the greater your ignition advance requirements will be for any given powerband, so yes, bore size will affect ignition timing REQUIREMENTS, not the setting. That flame has to burn through the mixture and will generally do so at a constant rate of speed throughout the RPM range unless other factors are altered. That's why the DT200 has 8 degrees of advance at lower RPM ranges and adjusts to 30 at the higher RPM range.

I witnessed a guy adjust ignition advance on a Chevy 350 strapped to a dyno to see what setting provided the most power. IIRC, he made the most power with the advance set at 32ish. I talked to him later on and with Dart heads installed, he made more power at mid 20s that he did at 32. Now, Dart heads make some serious power (or can be made to allow some serious power), so I can assure you that the combustion chamber design was much more efficient.

Another little gem that I'll donate is that you can tell just how efficient a head design is by how much an increase in ignition advance affects power. On a dyno, you can do this by increasing advance until you start to see power fall off and then go back some. If you have the total advance at 18 and a jump to 20 makes a slight increase, but the jump from 20 to 22 falls off quite a bit, you have a pretty good head. However, if a jump from 18 to 20 makes a slight increase and from 20 to 22 makes it only a very, very little bit worse, your head design isn't as good as it can be. Don't get caught up in the numbers, but when you see a broad range (5 degrees or more) where power isn't affected, what's happening is that you are getting into that range where advance is where it needs to be, but pumping losses are starting to take that power back away. This generally occurs when timing is pretty high (40 or more), but it does happen. A Blaster, for instance, is more sensitive to ignition changes with a modified dome than a stock one.

To be honest, an 20% increase in displacement by stroking an engine will require less additional timing than one increased 20% by boring. That's because the extra clearance between the piston and dome that is necessary because of the extra volume doesn't put the furthest gasses as far away as boring the engine.

There are several factors that affect ignition requirements, but they all boil down to combustion chamber volume, combustion chamber contents, combustion chamber geometry, and when the engine wants to see peak power (AKA, RPM).
 
Although the above is true I think it is way overboard worrying about it for only an increase of .25 mm.

There is no need to worry about the timing being out as what it was before the new piston will work absolutely fine.
 
Actually, bore size does affect timing requirements, albeit not very much. The advance in timing is there to allow peak pressure to build in enough time toe power stroke as possible by allowing the mixture that little bit of extra time to burn. That's why higher compression domes (which also have better designs that promote burn) require less advance to make the most of their design.

To make it simple, the more volume that the flame has to encompass, the greater your ignition advance requirements will be for any given powerband, so yes, bore size will affect ignition timing REQUIREMENTS, not the setting. That flame has to burn through the mixture and will generally do so at a constant rate of speed throughout the RPM range unless other factors are altered. That's why the DT200 has 8 degrees of advance at lower RPM ranges and adjusts to 30 at the higher RPM range.

I witnessed a guy adjust ignition advance on a Chevy 350 strapped to a dyno to see what setting provided the most power. IIRC, he made the most power with the advance set at 32ish. I talked to him later on and with Dart heads installed, he made more power at mid 20s that he did at 32. Now, Dart heads make some serious power (or can be made to allow some serious power), so I can assure you that the combustion chamber design was much more efficient.

Another little gem that I'll donate is that you can tell just how efficient a head design is by how much an increase in ignition advance affects power. On a dyno, you can do this by increasing advance until you start to see power fall off and then go back some. If you have the total advance at 18 and a jump to 20 makes a slight increase, but the jump from 20 to 22 falls off quite a bit, you have a pretty good head. However, if a jump from 18 to 20 makes a slight increase and from 20 to 22 makes it only a very, very little bit worse, your head design isn't as good as it can be. Don't get caught up in the numbers, but when you see a broad range (5 degrees or more) where power isn't affected, what's happening is that you are getting into that range where advance is where it needs to be, but pumping losses are starting to take that power back away. This generally occurs when timing is pretty high (40 or more), but it does happen. A Blaster, for instance, is more sensitive to ignition changes with a modified dome than a stock one.

To be honest, an 20% increase in displacement by stroking an engine will require less additional timing than one increased 20% by boring. That's because the extra clearance between the piston and dome that is necessary because of the extra volume doesn't put the furthest gasses as far away as boring the engine.

There are several factors that affect ignition requirements, but they all boil down to combustion chamber volume, combustion chamber contents, combustion chamber geometry, and when the engine wants to see peak power (AKA, RPM).
That whole big novel an your still missing my point, sure changing bore is gonna affect ignition timing requirements on a optimum power aspect during tuning, but increasing the bore size does not have any affect on when the piston reaches tdc, im talking about this thread an this thread only, the op said his mechanic told him his engine is now out of time on the ignition side due the the increase in bore size changing when the piston reaches the top, this was all ment to be simple,
 
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YES!! the problem is the timming ,yesterday i went with a mechanical to look the stator and he said when a piston is changed the dimmensions are diferent and the spark is turned on after or before,the previous piston was a 66.75mm namura and the new piston is 67.00mm wiseco , can you tell me what means the marks on the stator cap ??
Definitely a wrong statement, misinformation, a poor explanation or poor communication skills.

Enlarging a piston in diameter will not change the timing in any way.

Unless the timing is changed the spark will occur at the precise time that it did with a smaller diameter piston.
 
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That whole big novel an your still missing my point, sure changing bore is gonna affect ignition timing requirements on a optimum power aspect during tuning, but increasing the bore size does not have any affect on when the piston reaches tdc, im talking about this thread an this thread only, the op said his mechanic told him his engine is now out of time on the ignition side due the the increase in bore size changing when the piston reaches the top, this was all ment to be simple,


No, I didn't miss it. It was in the second paragraph after the bold "requirements". I said larger bores affect the timing requirement, but not the setting. I got what you were saying, but I was trying to get OP to grasp timing.
 
people i found the problem ,it was the SPARK COIL ,now it turns on at the first kick ,thanks so much for your support :D yesterday was the first run and i go out with a friend here are a pair of pics

be careful we have a bad boys hehehe (translation: restricted motorcycle ride)
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and then...
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