correct basshead, the lt250r was faster straight line than the trx250r BUT the trx250r suspension was and still is far suprior to the lt250r, aftermarket frames can be found now and then that use the honda geometry and basicly you have much better machine stock for stock, pipe to pipe, carb to carb, but once a big bore trx come sin the mix the lt cant play no more sinc ethe aftermarket isnt there any more