I do alot of auctions. Look at what I picked up. Its brand new and had a chip in it on the bottom edge where it effects nothing. Cost $23 out the door. Heavy bastard too. I have another half this size which I use more often. It was only $7 out the door. I think most people don't know what they're for,plus they're freekin heavy,so they don't want to bid on them. I'll be using them in an up and coming video about lapping.